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#273206 10-Aug-2020 11:55
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I work as a sole trader and have for several years now.

 

In my spare time I have developed an enterprise app (not a smartphone app) which is now starting to sell. Potential customers are local governement who want a business bank account - fair enough.

 

I went into my main bank, got deer in the headlights looks and not one of the 4 people in the branch could help me.

 

We also bank with another bank so I rang them up and they were happy to kick the process off over the phone (bank 1 wouldnt do that).

 

Anyway Im a bit curious as to why they need so much information, Im just after a cheque account! Im not after credit and the account would be low volume (<10 transaction per month) for smallish amounts. I wouldve thought proof of identity, business IRD number, company registration details etc would be enough to open a cheque account.

 

I know its all for anti fraud but they are asking for things like who my hosting provider is for my website. They also seem to place a lot of emphasis on a business plan - which in my case there isnt really a need for one (the plan is to sell the app!).

 

Surely they would be able to easily see if an account is being used fraudulently without all these hoops?

 

Luckily I have collateral (company website, product website etc). I cant imagine what you'd need to go through if you are starting from scratch.


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  #2537832 10-Aug-2020 12:20
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Based on your comment about the website I assume you need a merchant facility, which will also require opening a business bank acct for settlement of funds. 

 

In regards to the account; you will need to comply with the AML act in regards to providing verified proof of address and ID. You can usually do this by visiting a branch to verify the docs. Whatever bank you're using will have a business banking team, usually available on the phone. Branches traditionally deal with consumer/retail products and will often struggle with 'business' products.

 

In regards to the merchant side, if you want to take payments online you will need to satisfy Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards (PCI-DSS) requirements. Using a 'fully hosted' payment gateway is the easiest and best option for small businesses. You can expect the bank to want to see your privacy policy, refund policy etc....all part of 'website compliance'. Basically the banks have to meet a number of regulatory obligations on their part and also the card schemes (Visa, Mastercard etc).  

 

You shouldn't need to provide a business plan unless you want to borrow money.

 

A few small inconveniences but all part of the game these days!

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2537933 10-Aug-2020 14:41
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MileHighKiwi:

 

Based on your comment about the website I assume you need a merchant facility, which will also require opening a business bank acct for settlement of funds. 

 

 

Actually I just meant corporate website and a dedicated website for the application. So merchant facilities arent required as sales are mainly "old school" invoice/payment.

 

I dont know if its due diligence on the part of the consultant or what but I just completed the forms and it literally just asked for IRD number, NZBN etc. Which is what I would expect.

 

Im still curious as to why the questions asked are so over the top.

 

 


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  #2537942 10-Aug-2020 15:04
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They'd definitely start asking questions about your website host if you wanted a merchant account for credit card payments, but I don't see any reason to ask for this if you don't want a merchant account. Are you sure they didn't think you wanted a merchant account?




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  #2537999 10-Aug-2020 15:34
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MurrayM:

 

They'd definitely start asking questions about your website host if you wanted a merchant account for credit card payments, but I don't see any reason to ask for this if you don't want a merchant account. Are you sure they didn't think you wanted a merchant account?

 

 

Yes, the bank I'm going through doesnt offer merchant facilities.

 

I mean its fine, I just thought it was a bit odd.


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  #2538001 10-Aug-2020 15:52
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MileHighKiwi:

 

In regards to the account; you will need to comply with the AML act 

 

 

I was involved in an export business a few years ago and company in Iran wanted to purchase some of our products, sure no problems treated them like any other customer.. BOOM got a phone call from my bank with some hard lines of questioning to point where I was getting nervous even though I hadn't even done anything wrong, turns was they had picked up on this transaction from Iran and wanted to verify I wasn't laundering the money to finance terrorism.. turns out it was something to do with this act.. so yeah can verify its taken pretty seriously in NZ


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  #2541231 14-Aug-2020 17:55
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So 1 week later I am still waiting for an account.

Had to answer a few more questions this week.

I asked for an update today and got told they will be submitting the forms for review and that could take a further 2 to 7 business days.

I really wonder what they could be checking that takes this long? Surely the more pertinent AML checks should really be on active transactions and not a brand new account?

Sigh...

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  #2541305 14-Aug-2020 19:30
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A lot of that stuff would stem from the AML/CFT and KYC requirements, they have to know exactly what your business does and why it wants to use the banks services/how it plans to use them.
Then the same for whoever runs the accounts and those associated with the business etc. Each bank would follow mostly the same process I would imagine, just some may be more efficient than others.


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