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#284647 7-May-2021 09:28

I just found an email in my gmail spam from April 19 saying that D4L has been bought by Crazy Domains and all services will be migrated.

My scheduled migration date is 15th May. Just posting here in case anyone else hasn't been made aware.

From email:

We are pleased to announce that Domains4Less and it's products, services and customer subscriptions have recently been acquired by a leader in the hosting and domain name services field, Crazy Domains.

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#2703236 7-May-2021 10:19

Got my acct confirmation and changeover done already.

Their domain management caught me out. At first glance, you think you are covered for the next 2 years. But that's just the DNS record.

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#2735804 28-Jun-2021 13:52

Yeah, I'm spitting that they charge the same as the domain registrations ($27 per year!!!) to set up a simple cname record for a new domain I registered with them. Can anyone suggest a better domain host based in NZ with free domain management tools?

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#2735868 28-Jun-2021 14:15

Move your DNS to cloudflare.. Easier anyways!

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#2735889 28-Jun-2021 15:35

The level of service is 100x better so far.

Not sure if they cost more but happy with the improved service.

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#2736136 28-Jun-2021 23:21

Oblivian:

Got my acct confirmation and changeover done already.

Their domain management caught me out. At first glance, you think you are covered for the next 2 years. But that's just the DNS record.

@Oblivian Did they charge you for the 2 years of DNS hosting. Or was that provided for free after the changeover?

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#2736137 28-Jun-2021 23:40

Not logged in for a while. But I'm due about Aug. Just the default date you're shown was dns entry till 2022. But under management of domain it had 2021. So must be some default that keeps it alive with them if you expire accidentally

No additional charges I could see at the time

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#2736138 28-Jun-2021 23:48

Oblivian: Not logged in for a while. But I'm due about Aug. Just the default date you're shown was dns entry till 2022. But under management of domain it had 2021. So must be some default that keeps it alive with them if you expire accidentally

No additional charges I could see at the time

Thanks

I think their new systems has two versions, one a free default DNS for CNAMEs and A Records . Then another premium DNS service they charge for if you have TXT records or want to do email or URL forwarding. I think these features were free on the older system.

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#2736139 28-Jun-2021 23:54

Guess I'll find out come may. The dns toggle shows that's the date dns is good to. About the time the acct was moved

And it tells me 2 months out domain due for renewal.
They want $11 for privacy. So sure packing on the extras as chargeable.

Not the best england on the warning either

services not renewed will automatically disconnected your web and email

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#2736203 29-Jun-2021 09:22

NathanS:

Yeah, I'm spitting that they charge the same as the domain registrations ($27 per year!!!) to set up a simple cname record for a new domain I registered with them. Can anyone suggest a better domain host based in NZ with free domain management tools?

Metaname (https://metaname.net) is great and comes with a lot of "thumbs up" from fellow GZers - which is how I got wind of them. Combine this with Cloudflare and you have all the control you need.

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#2738733 4-Jul-2021 19:05

Are expiry threats the new way of edging for interest or getting early payment

I thought domains had a required 90 day grace holding time before release for 2nd level .nz

Seems heavy handed wording compared to the old d4l, which would take it on the day of expiry and be happy.

Due sep1,. received today.

YOU ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THIS DOMAIN
days left:59
What happens if I don't renew?
If your Domain Name is not renewed by expiry date, your domain name will be deactivated and any connected website or emails will no longer work. It will be available for anyone who wants to claim and register it as their own.

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#2739261 5-Jul-2021 17:24

Oblivian: Are expiry threats the new way of edging for interest or getting early payment

I thought domains had a required 90 day grace holding time before release for 2nd level .nz

Seems heavy handed wording compared to the old d4l, which would take it on the day of expiry and be happy.

Due sep1,. received today.

YOU ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THIS DOMAIN
days left:59
What happens if I don't renew?
If your Domain Name is not renewed by expiry date, your domain name will be deactivated and any connected website or emails will no longer work. It will be available for anyone who wants to claim and register it as their own.

I understand there is a 90 day pending release / grace period on nz domains after the expiry date. I would contact the NZ Domain Name Commissioner to confirm this https://dnc.org.nz/

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#2739292 5-Jul-2021 19:11

robbyp:

I understand there is a 90 day pending release / grace period on nz domains after the expiry date. I would contact the NZ Domain Name Commissioner to confirm this

Yeah I had a browse after the fact and found that there is. Guessing it's a boilerplate international statement that's totally off the cuff for NZ.

Of note for anyone whos hanging around and going to be due soon - seems they've also upped pricing. Front page suggests $26. (D4L was ~29 incl GST) but when you head to checkout now, it's 29+GST

2020 (after the $3 increase everyone got)

Sub Total:$25.51
GST:$3.82
Invoice Total:$29.33

And if you don't multi-year stack it. It's basically now $33/yr.

Within range of metaname now. I would learn what's involved in shifting if I used anything more than holding it to keep gmail custom domain MX

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#2739402 5-Jul-2021 23:58

Oblivian:

robbyp:

I understand there is a 90 day pending release / grace period on nz domains after the expiry date. I would contact the NZ Domain Name Commissioner to confirm this

Yeah I had a browse after the fact and found that there is. Guessing it's a boilerplate international statement that's totally off the cuff for NZ.

Of note for anyone whos hanging around and going to be due soon - seems they've also upped pricing. Front page suggests $26. (D4L was ~29 incl GST) but when you head to checkout now, it's 29+GST

2020 (after the $3 increase everyone got)

Sub Total:$25.51
GST:$3.82
Invoice Total:$29.33

And if you don't multi-year stack it. It's basically now $33/yr.

Within range of metaname now. I would learn what's involved in shifting if I used anything more than holding it to keep gmail custom domain MX

The price according to their website for .nz domains shows $26 for me. Although it doesn't seem to advertise that the pricing is excluding GST. I thought when prices were GST exclusive, it had to state this clearly in the advertising etc on the webpage somewhere. Not just added when you get to the checkout? It quotes $29.90 for me in the checkout on a .co.nz domain eg $26+gst.

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#2739403 6-Jul-2021 00:12

The whole outfit just doesn't seem to add up anymore and has taken a turn for the worse. So well open to hear from others due for renewal with them. It's as if the stupid system can't actually handle GST properly and is adding it multiple times.

My quoted renew price for a single year, Was most certainly 29+gst on top again. I opted for the 'discounted' 2yr as a result.

And from the invoice:

List Price Buy Price Discount Qty Total Price
$57.90 $49.40 $8.50 1 $49.40

Subtotal: $49.40
GST $7.41
Total: $56.81

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#2739404 6-Jul-2021 00:20

Oblivian:

The whole outfit just doesn't seem to add up anymore and has taken a turn for the worse. So well open to hear from others due for renewal with them. It's as if the stupid system can't actually handle GST properly and is adding it multiple times.

My quoted renew price for a single year, Was most certainly 29+gst on top again. I opted for the 'discounted' 2yr as a result.

And from the invoice:

List Price Buy Price Discount Qty Total Price
$57.90 $49.40 $8.50 1 $49.40

Subtotal: $49.40
GST $7.41
Total: $56.81

Are they charging more for the renewal of a .nz domain, than the cost of the registration of a new domain?

On the homepage of their website it does advertise that the cost of a .nz domain is $20.80. However when you go to the domains page and do a search for just a .nz domain, it quotes $26. I can't see any mention of GST anywhere until the checkout. So I wonder how you can buy a .nz domain for $20.80?

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