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#72413 25-Nov-2010 22:39
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I couldn't find a section in the forum to dicuss web hosting / domain names etc, so I will post this here. If a moderator knows of a more appropriate place, please move it.


I run a popular blog and podcast. On the 16th of June 2010 I attempted to transfer my domain name to a New Zealand company, Discount Domains. Aplus.net (the domain name registrar for Discount Domains) appeared to screw up their email that they were meant to send me so that the domain name transfer could go ahead. Instead of the authorisation link that Discount Domains expected Aplus to send me, the email contained references to an unknown account at some website affiliated with them that I needed to log into in order to approve the transfer (but they didn’t tell me which website this was, or how to log in). Discount Domains here in New Zealand then advised that they actually didn’t know how the transfer process works (they said it had been changed) and that they didn’t know what the email meant, and then Aplus ignored my emails to their support team for about a week, followed by an activation link that had already expired when they sent it to me and at least two failed attempts to send it again, all the while knowing that my site was down. They advised discount domains that they had sent a new link through to me (on two separate occasions), and after eight days of waiting, I eventually gave up on them both and approach Freeparking. I requested the transfer to them, and within an hour or so I got an activation link to authorise the domain name transfer. That’s how it’s done. Oh, and then a few days later, Aplus got in touch with me asking me to authorise the domain name transfer to them. Just wow. Aplus (and Discount Domains), by their own admission made a bunch of mistakes and got their service wrong, and as a result my site and blog was down about twelve days longer than it needed to be. Lost traffic, broken links removed, people stopped visiting, the podcast disappeared from the iTunes store, prospective employers couldn’t view the site/blog (and may even have fairly wondered whether I was telling the truth about even having it). It was bad.

 

I kept emailing Discount Domains, they kept giving me the message that they would sort out the problem within the next day or so, but that they still didn’t really know how the transfer process was supposed to work. On a couple of occasions they assured me that it was sorted and the transfer was about to happen, but it never did. This ate up close to six weeks, Yes, six weeks. It hammered my traffic and my web ranking at the time, and it ate up a huge amount of my own time and effort. After nearly six weeks I went to a new domain name provider (Freeparking NZ) and it was sorted in a couple of days. The difference was like night and day. None of the facts are in dispute, Discount Domains admits everything I say, and they have told me, “we certainly do not feel that the level of service you have received from Discount Domains or our dotcom partner is acceptable.” However, since August they have refused to refund me or provide one cent of compensation. They will not even return my emails. Since none of the facts are in dispute, I run no risk telling people this.

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  #409689 25-Nov-2010 23:41
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This user has also posted the same thing over at PressF1:
http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=114269



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  #409697 26-Nov-2010 00:03
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Bletch: This user has also posted the same thing over at PressF1:
http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=114269
Yes. Is that bad? I want people to know this.

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  #409699 26-Nov-2010 00:20
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ADDENDUM: Having gone back to the original correspondence with Discount Domains due to somebody querying the dates above, I have to make a correction: It started on July 15 and I left on August 13. My apologies, it was four weeks, not six. Still, four weeks is a lot longer than the few days I was told it would take.



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  #409711 26-Nov-2010 03:37
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That's extremely poor service a fine reading of their ToS and a trip to the disputes tribunal might be in order (if you can be bothered wasting anymore time).

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  #409843 26-Nov-2010 11:33
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1 question.  Why on earth are you using an NZ registrar for an international domain?  Far more expensive.

Discount Domains for a .com ... 27.95+GST = $32.14

Namecheap for a .com ... 9.98 USD which is about 14 NZD, half the price.

 




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  #409877 26-Nov-2010 13:37
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Ragnor: That's extremely poor service a fine reading of their ToS and a trip to the disputes tribunal might be in order (if you can be bothered wasting anymore time).
Well, that's the thing. It's pretty rude, but since I'm the one who would have to invest the effort, I probably can't be bother. So I reserve the right to whine online instead.

 
 
 

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  #409878 26-Nov-2010 13:38
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sleemanj: 1 question.  Why on earth are you using an NZ registrar for an international domain?  Far more expensive.

Discount Domains for a .com ... 27.95+GST = $32.14

Namecheap for a .com ... 9.98 USD which is about 14 NZD, half the price.

 
I know it's a little quaint of me, but I do prefer to deal with NZ businesses when I can help it.

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  #414091 7-Dec-2010 15:51
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It seems DiscountDomains.co.nz is really going downhill in the support stakes.

I've today been bitten by a transfer problem myself, transferred a domain to discount domains yesterday, it had just expired at the previous reg and I paid the recovery fee when transferring, no problem in whois shows everything fine, but the .co.nz zone isn't picking it up again.

Very nearly 24 hours later, still dead, and I'm fairly sure the .co.nz zone is updated hourly these days.

The "live chat" on the discount domains has been "offline" all day, I expect that it's just permanently offline these days, tat's almost misleading advertising to me.

I opened a ticket a little before 10 this morning, had a reply at 11:30 to say the nameservers were not resolving, except they are and I told them that in a reply a few minutes later, including dig output.  That was the last I heard from them.  4 hours later, domain still dead, no response from discount domains.

Considering discountdomains.co.nz is by no means "discount" (see domains4less) in it's pricing, I'd expect better service than that.  If there's poor support at discountdomains.co.nz, I may as well save the money and go to a registrar where you expect poor support because of the rock bottom pricing.






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  #414099 7-Dec-2010 15:56
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Domains4Less are decent, owned by Webdrive these days so backed by a reputable company with a good service history.

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  #414169 7-Dec-2010 18:16
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Big ups to domains 4 less.

I got sick of waiting for at least a reply from discount domains so I transferred the domain (2nd time in 24 hours) to domains 4 less about an hour ago.

It's working now. And I even sent a ticket to D4L to ask them to check on it right after I transferred and they replied in detail, in 23 minutes, to tell me that everything looked fine now.

THAT is how it is supposed to be done!

I'll be transferring the rest of my *nz domains to Domains4Less





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