Can I run VMware Server 2 on Hyper-V machine?

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#73714 20-Dec-2010 15:22

As I understand it, the O/S (Windows Server 2008) is moved into "primary" local virtual machine when Hyper-V is enabled, as such, can is run VMware Server 2, with x64 guest O/S, or will it fail due to not being able to see the VTx?

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#419548 20-Dec-2010 17:06

i'd say no. hyper-v wouldnt virtualise the VTx capabilities, and i dont see sharing as feasible...

why would you want to try and run VMware on top of Hyper-V anyway? pick one or the other. (and you'd probably pick ESX, not VMware server, if you went with VMware)

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#419554 20-Dec-2010 17:12

there is a chance that you could run virtualbox though, if you disable VTx - it does software emulated 64bit for guests which means you can run 64bit guests on 32bit hardware..

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#419655 20-Dec-2010 19:51

Vmware server and vmware player wont install on a W2k8 Server when the hyper v system is running (not sure if services can be stopped or is the role has to be removed).

Personally if it wasn't for the physical disk pass thru, I'd drop hyper v pretty quick. No USB support, no native web management console - haven't really found it that great tbh.

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#419815 21-Dec-2010 07:55

Some clients want VHD others want VMDK, converting them is hit and miss. Using a workstation, so need and O/S for workstation tasks (hence Windows Server 2008 R2) while supporting 64bit VHDs (another tick for WS2k8), however, there is still this problem of clients wanting VMDK, hence the need for VMware, conclusion, I'm going to have to get another machine just for ESX.

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#419842 21-Dec-2010 08:53

ps. has anyone been able to get VMware Server 2 NAT to work? Virtual PC works fine, allowing me to run Linux through the NAT and hence not tripping up on corporate ISA proxy, however, NAT does not work for VMware server.

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#419889 21-Dec-2010 11:21

Tip 1. Do not attempt to install VMware on a guest instance of XP under Virtual PC, that does very very bad things.

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#420258 22-Dec-2010 08:37

have you seen the movie Inception? Running a VM inside a VM inside a VM....

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#420307 22-Dec-2010 10:31

unlike the movie, mine did not step back through the stack in a stylish manner, instead, the galaxy just imploded.

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#420498 22-Dec-2010 16:03

lyonrouge: unlike the movie, mine did not step back through the stack in a stylish manner, instead, the galaxy just imploded.

but i bet everything got really really slow each level you hit...

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#420578 22-Dec-2010 18:12

yes, yes indeed. Once I replace my Virtual Server with Hyper-V I might load ESXi onto the old server, was going to run two Hyper-V nodes, but it would be advantageous to have an ESXi box.

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#420650 22-Dec-2010 21:11

Some clients want VHD others want VMDK, converting them is hit and miss.

What kind of problems do you have with the conversion?

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#420666 22-Dec-2010 21:40

I've converted a couple of Linux servers, but didn't even try a Linux Desktop machine - figuring that desktop support wont work (this is ubuntu though).

But I was able to convert a w2k3 and 2 W7 machines fairly easily.

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#420761 23-Dec-2010 01:08

if you're building virtual machines to deliver to clients who are running hyper-v or VMware then you should build them in the product they are using. converting hyper-v to VMware and vice-versa will require replacing virtual hardware - e.g. emulated scsi and NICs - and you may not end up with the most optimal devices for the target platform.

just as i wouldnt do a phyiscal-to-virtual migration (unless absolutely necessary), i wouldnt to a hyper-v to vmware migration (or vice-versa).

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#420778 23-Dec-2010 07:25

Indeed, which is why I wanted to have Hyper-V and VMware on the same machine.

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#420795 23-Dec-2010 07:54

gzt:
Some clients want VHD others want VMDK, converting them is hit and miss.

What kind of problems do you have with the conversion?

VHD --> VMDK Windows Server 2008 R2 crash on startup after convert. Abandoned conversion as an option and performing duplicate creates, one on Hyper-V (on another machine) and the second on VMware Server 2008 (on my machine). Sadly, I have to use my cellphone to get a raw connection as I can't get OpenSUSE to work with the company ISA proxy (but, that is a whole different world of hurt, oh it only I could get linux to run under Virtual PC, then I could hide the connection funkiness behind NAT)

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