GCSB Bill and withdrawl of services by Microsoft,Google,Yahoo

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#874103 8-Aug-2013 19:00

SaltyNZ:
blakamin:
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And they are the consumer for quite a lot of stuff, for example, paper. Also, there is a compliance cost associated with passing on the GST to the consumer.

All of which they probably claim back on the little tax that they pay! lol.

Well, when they're that good at wiggling out of costs, I'm confident they'll manage this time too.

How do they manage to do that?

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#874107 8-Aug-2013 19:04

Beats me, I'm an engineer, not an accountant.

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#874109 8-Aug-2013 19:07

SaltyNZ:
blakamin:
SaltyNZ:
And they are the consumer for quite a lot of stuff, for example, paper. Also, there is a compliance cost associated with passing on the GST to the consumer.

All of which they probably claim back on the little tax that they pay! lol.

Well, when they're that good at wiggling out of costs, I'm confident they'll manage this time too.

I really hope it doesn't come to this and the govt wake up and stop this sh!t!

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#874112 8-Aug-2013 19:14

Yes!

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#874119 8-Aug-2013 19:21

An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

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#874127 8-Aug-2013 19:30

MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

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#874139 8-Aug-2013 19:45

blakamin:
MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

Would a developer not develop their own tools?

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#874142 8-Aug-2013 19:48

MikeSkyrme:
blakamin:
MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

Would a developer not develop their own tools?

Cue all developers signing up for assembler classes!

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#874156 8-Aug-2013 19:51

blakamin:
MikeSkyrme:
blakamin:
MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

Would a developer not develop their own tools?

Cue all developers signing up for assembler classes!

Nah, you've got to start with the hardware. Intel's a US company. :-D

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#874161 8-Aug-2013 19:52

blakamin:
MikeSkyrme:
blakamin:
MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

Would a developer not develop their own tools?

Cue all developers signing up for assembler classes!

That's the spirit....., gains for another part of the industry.

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#874550 9-Aug-2013 13:24

A big thank you for all the replys and information!

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#874754 9-Aug-2013 19:58

SaltyNZ:
blakamin:
MikeSkyrme:
blakamin:
MikeSkyrme: An alternative view......

Once all the 'big boys' take away their bats and balls, they will leave a playground full of New Zealand developers with a whole new niche to fill.....

And no tools to do it with ;P

Would a developer not develop their own tools?

Cue all developers signing up for assembler classes!

Nah, you've got to start with the hardware. Intel's a US company. :-D

I'll get my soldering iron out... Don't blame me if ENIAC looks like a smartphone by the time I'm done!

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#874883 9-Aug-2013 22:49

Just pointing out this is in relation to the TICS bill, which (while it relates to the GCSB) is actually separate from the GCSB bill.

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#875033 10-Aug-2013 11:45

I see Mr Dotcom has added his name to that list, frankly I might bugger off to Iceland myself if this level of intrusion is to be continued.
I'm surprised John Key suggested at the GCSB bIll Hearings that "businesses can use encryption" Yet the govt can easily crack this encryption. I wonder what is worse, the concept of misleading businesses all over NZ into thinking their communications are not recorded, or the removal of commercial sensitivity.

http://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-will-move-mega-privacy-services-to-iceland-to-avoid-spying-130809/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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#875283 11-Aug-2013 10:11

Techwarrior: A big thank you for all the replys and information!

I have to ask .. were you genuinely interested in this topic, or pumping everyone for info to help write your paper for you? :P

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