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# 248238 15-Mar-2019 20:26
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Are multiple image board's being blocked on NZ internet at the moment? Attempted access direct via two NZ isp's, to DNS not resolved errors. Works fine via offshore proxy. Same for anybody else?

Great NZ firewall?


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  # 2199108 15-Mar-2019 20:31
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yep they are, this article mentions spark saying they have blocked some websites

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/111322733/facebook-battles-to-stamp-out-horror-footage-of-christchurch-shooting

 

 

 

 


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  # 2199117 15-Mar-2019 20:44
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Cheers guys. ISP level dns block then, rather than great NZ firewall.


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  # 2199122 15-Mar-2019 20:49
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There is no "great NZ firewall".

 

This would be a precedent for using the filter, but there are technical issues with doing that.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2200503 18-Mar-2019 04:27
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I'd like to try to track this; both in terms of which sites are blocked and who is blocking them.

 

I am NOT trying to get hold of or distribute the 'restricted' files, I am interested in staying aware of what the authorities and or ISPs are doing in terms of restricting Internet access.

 

 

 

So far, I have confirmed that the following sites are DNS blocked on both 2Degrees and Vodafone's DNS servers:
zerohedge.com
4chan.org
8ch.net
dissenter.com
kiwifarms.net
liveleak.com
archive.fo
eztv.is

 


I would really appreciate the results of a DNS lookups from others using different ISPs.  Unfortunately most ISPs block DNS lookups from outside their customers so I can't test most of them.


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  # 2200516 18-Mar-2019 07:29
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Following this too. 
While justified it should have some form of public notification and advise what websites are being filtered and for how long. I was having a browse of a board last night and also noted quite a few video hosting sites were being blocked too. These were clips of cars and stuff but I am guessing that someone must have uploaded that video to them..

 

"Lets just blanket censor the internet in an attempt to hide something that can't be hidden"


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  # 2200518 18-Mar-2019 07:37
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Coil:

 

Following this too. 
While justified it should have some form of public notification and advise what websites are being filtered and for how long. I was having a browse of a board last night and also noted quite a few video hosting sites were being blocked too. These were clips of cars and stuff but I am guessing that someone must have uploaded that video to them..

 

"Lets just blanket censor the internet in an attempt to hide something that can't be hidden"

 

 

 

 

Well, usually, I for one would like the jury to have a level head and weigh up the evidence....so restricting info I agree with but noticed I said 'usually'...because in cases like this one....well..... it will be a hard one for the judge to decide who gets on the jury....given we all know what we know because if you didnt know..... you have been hiding under a rock. 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2200536 18-Mar-2019 08:31
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sbiddle:

There is no "great NZ firewall".

 

This would be a precedent for using the filter, but there are technical issues with doing that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The code of practice for the DIA filter (Which is still voluntary) states that it is ONLY to be used for Child Pornography. This clearly isn't that, thus the DIA filter cannot* be used to filter this.

 


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  # 2200546 18-Mar-2019 08:44
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My question to those that oppose censorship of this situation is, how do you want the justice system to deal with this individual?

By having these images and words available to all to see, not only is disturbing, and could lead to copy-cat situations; but could also dirty the pool of potential jurors for this persons trial.

I’m not sure what will happen as this goes through the courts, but should the videos and documents become so widely viewed, a valid appeal by the suspect may include a prejudiced jury. As much as we would all like to see justice served, by having such evidence provided to potential jurors now will mean there is a chance this person may get either a reduced sentence or even get off all charges because the justice system has failed, because of social media.

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  # 2200550 18-Mar-2019 09:01
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empacher48: My question to those that oppose censorship of this situation is, how do you want the justice system to deal with this individual?

By having these images and words available to all to see, not only is disturbing, and could lead to copy-cat situations; but could also dirty the pool of potential jurors for this persons trial.

I’m not sure what will happen as this goes through the courts, but should the videos and documents become so widely viewed, a valid appeal by the suspect may include a prejudiced jury. As much as we would all like to see justice served, by having such evidence provided to potential jurors now will mean there is a chance this person may get either a reduced sentence or even get off all charges because the justice system has failed, because of social media.

 

It has nothing to do with what has happened recently, that is for the courts to decide and I trust in their ability.
This is about censorship without any formal proceedings. The fact that this censorship is tied to a tragic event which will tug on all the heart strings of people is exactly what supports their actions and makes us citizens turn a blind eye to it and support it. When all the smoke settles from this event I can guarantee some of the opinions and changes made will be looked back on as hasty knee jerk reactions. 

 

The thing is that the video is widely available to be viewed. It is already everywhere and it isn't going to go away. All this censorship makes people save local copies of it and intentionally go out of their way to preserve it. If you are not looking at the grand scheme of things you are narrow sighted. 


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  # 2200605 18-Mar-2019 10:05
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Following.

 

Is there a list of ISP's that didn't/aren't blocking sites?





Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.


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  # 2200621 18-Mar-2019 10:18
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Lias:

 

Following.

 

Is there a list of ISP's that didn't/aren't blocking sites?

 

 

There are alot more provided than the big 3 that publicly communicated.

 

 

 

I will not be engaging in official comments from spark side for this topic to be clear.

 

Neils post covers very well.





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  # 2200623 18-Mar-2019 10:20
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kyhwana2:

 

The code of practice for the DIA filter (Which is still voluntary) states that it is ONLY to be used for Child Pornography. This clearly isn't that, thus the DIA filter cannot* be used to filter this.

 

A Code of Practice is not a legally binding document.


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  # 2200640 18-Mar-2019 10:33
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Coil:

 

This is about censorship without any formal proceedings.

 

 

No

 

This is about private companies doing things that probably 99% of their customers support, 

 

SkyTV has dumped Sky News Australia currently too....

 

Theses are private decisions,  not government ones....

 

 

 

Some dairies have chosen not to sell smokes,  is that "censorship" too....

 

 


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  # 2200641 18-Mar-2019 10:35
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SirHumphreyAppleby:

 

kyhwana2:

 

The code of practice for the DIA filter (Which is still voluntary) states that it is ONLY to be used for Child Pornography. This clearly isn't that, thus the DIA filter cannot* be used to filter this.

 

A Code of Practice is not a legally binding document.

 

 

No but legislation is!  

 


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