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#676795 25-Aug-2012 13:11

khull: Samsung surely had it coming. Check out:

http://samsungcopiesapple.tumblr.com

The case wasn't really about things like the design of the box or look and feel.

It was about ridiculous ui software patents like bounce back scrolling. Obvious and very basic techniques for interacting with a touch device that shouldn't be patentable in the first place.

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#676798 25-Aug-2012 13:13

Samsung have effectively sunk $1b in an amazing marketing campaign

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#676800 25-Aug-2012 13:16

khull: Samsung surely had it coming. Check out:

http://samsungcopiesapple.tumblr.com

The site has done alot to make the devices look alike, e.g the phones are in realiaty different sizes but in the pictures they are the same size.
There are not any dates or proof who came what what first (adaptors etc) just photos.

So the site needs a but of a revamp before I would take it seriously.

There was little doubt that apple would win in the US as its an american company, in South Korea I believe both sides were found at fault.

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#676801 25-Aug-2012 13:17

Ragnor:
kiwitrc: I dont think there was ever any doubt that a US jury would not rule in favour of a US company versus a Korean company.

Pretty much

After the rush, the judge came back to point out two problems with the verdict -- including the jury awarding damages in cases where it had not found infringement. While this will be corrected and won't change the results much, it certainly suggests that the jury rushed through this and may not have taken this particularly seriously.

http://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20120824/16335120154/samsung-routed-apple-patent-fight-told-to-pay-105-billion.shtml

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#676803 25-Aug-2012 13:18

Ragnor: at the heart of it yes - the lawyers pick infringements that they would most likely be able to best argue. The design patents infringement is a bit of questionable nature which end users probably won't necessarily find apparent (scrolling, multi gestures). Should design patents even be allowed in the first place?

From an IP standpoint it is significant but lets reserve it until the judgement from the verdict.

What is more important is the verdict ruled the copying was induced by Samsung as the parent company. This means that the entire corporate entity is directly responsible for the infringement actions rather than a particular business unit within Samsung.

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#676805 25-Aug-2012 13:26

kiwitrc: I dont think there was ever any doubt that a US jury would not rule in favour of a US company versus a Korean company.

+1. This is the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned about and will never buy an Apple product.. Looking round for an iTunes replacement.. Who's next , HTC, Motorola??

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#676833 25-Aug-2012 14:32

What a horrible result for Samsung. I don't consider it a fair result, but then the last 5 Jury results I've seen I've strongly disagreed with.

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#676834 25-Aug-2012 14:38

Well I guess all the Apple buyers will now be giving Apple far more than the 58% profit they wrer getting up to this point. I wish i could work in an industry with a 58% markup.

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#676840 25-Aug-2012 14:50

this may come back and bite apple to the core.

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#676857 25-Aug-2012 15:13

I'm sorry but why have a go at Apple for defending what they rightly owned? They were the first to patent the technology.

I'm sure if you invented something, spent the money to have it patented and then someone came along and created something that was very very similar, wouldn't you be crying foul??

From what I have read Apple was willing to license the technology to Samsung, which they have done with Microsoft, which Samsung didn't accept. You don't see any law suits going on between Apple and Microsoft, as the did all the paper work and agreed on things.

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#676863 25-Aug-2012 15:23

The problem is that "technology" is a vague term. If it's an invention then people would be willing to agree. But a patent that protects a swipe of finger on a screen... It's a dumb patent.

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#676864 25-Aug-2012 15:28

I wonder if this is why we didn't hear anything about the P10 or whatever it's called nowadays. This might just make things too turbulent to risk releasing it.

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#676877 25-Aug-2012 16:09

Short term Apple win, gets to keep it's finger in the American pie. Long term, I'm not so sure. The emerging Asian markets (particularly China and India) don't hesitate to copy products and ignore patents. Apple may end up fighting itself out of some markets as consumers vote with their money.

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#676886 25-Aug-2012 16:43

Didn't Apple supposedly copy the LG Prada, but LG never went through with the lawsuit?

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#676894 25-Aug-2012 17:10

Well its just confirmed something for me, I will now never purchase an Apple product, I suspect many others will too.

I was just thinking, I see Datsun had a patent on putting the light switch on the end of the indicator stalk, and no ones ever paid a patent fee, maybe..................... nah

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Edit, Datsun example is not real but just think about it

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