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Topic # 106606 27-Jul-2012 12:15

So other than the fact that you look a bit silly trying to use a 7" tablet to pay for things, has anyone come across any use for the NFC and/or Google Wallet functionality of the N7 in NZ? Even if it's some gimmicky function, it'd be nice to have a play with it.

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Reply # 662909 27-Jul-2012 12:37

Only use I've found is for using Android beam between the Nexus7 and my faithful Nexus S

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Reply # 663743 29-Jul-2012 20:52

Not the N7 but on the GN I managed to get Google Wallet installed but I had to root the phone and then run Market Enabler and set myself to T-Mobile before the app would startup. Does the app startup fine on the N7 without rooting?

I then got the $10 credit and added another $20 to see if I could (all USD). So I now have $30 on GW.

There is an application called Paypass locator (which is what GW uses) and it showed a few places in Wellington that take it. I went into one (Green Man pub in Wellington) but they have removed all their Paypass EFTPOS devices and gone back to traditional ones so that was a bust.

Another place is Lueven (bar) which is near my work and I have been meaning to go in for a beer and try out GW.

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Reply # 663748 29-Jul-2012 21:16

The convenience story / post shop in Courtenay Place has a Paypass / Paywave capable terminal.

It really is unbelievable that NZ is so stuck in the dark ages. NFC takeup in Australia is unbelievable, NZers seem to think we're tech savvy people and gloat about EFTPOS, but the reality is we're 2 years behind countries such as Australia who are currently leading the world when it comes to NFC payments.

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Reply # 663771 29-Jul-2012 22:12

I didn't know about the store in CP. Must take a look.

Of course it's quite expensive using GW since it's all in USD and so there are currency conversions going on.

As for NFC takeup, last Christmas when I was in the US I saw it in a number of places but at the time I only had working my OneSmart card which is NFC enabled. I didn't have a NFC enabled phone at the time.

Next time around I will :-)

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Reply # 663850 30-Jul-2012 10:17

Hmm, Leuven is only a matter of meters away from the office, might go see what they have of interest. It's usually full of people reaching out to each other and discussing synergistic collaboration etc. so not my sort of locale :)

Paul @ MoDaCo has a patched Google wallet apk available that'll install and supposedly work anywhere. I signed up and got my "free" $10 so it looks hopeful.

I got the N7 to read my Snapper and my office access card although it didn't tell me anything very exciting.

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Reply # 663862 30-Jul-2012 10:24

sbiddle: The convenience story / post shop in Courtenay Place has a Paypass / Paywave capable terminal.

It really is unbelievable that NZ is so stuck in the dark ages. NFC takeup in Australia is unbelievable, NZers seem to think we're tech savvy people and gloat about EFTPOS, but the reality is we're 2 years behind countries such as Australia who are currently leading the world when it comes to NFC payments.

Hi Steve, I wonder how much of that results from most retailers only having just updated their EFTPOS terminals just 12months ago.

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Reply # 663873 30-Jul-2012 10:38

stevenz: Hmm, Leuven is only a matter of meters away from the office, might go see what they have of interest. It's usually full of people reaching out to each other and discussing synergistic collaboration etc. so not my sort of locale :)

Paul @ MoDaCo has a patched Google wallet apk available that'll install and supposedly work anywhere. I signed up and got my "free" $10 so it looks hopeful.

I got the N7 to read my Snapper and my office access card although it didn't tell me anything very exciting.

Nice to use a patch apk that doesn't require hacking your Market etc.

But I wonder how you an add money to it? That's not a function of the apk but what credit/debit card The Money Network (Google's supplier) will accept. I used my US credit card but I wonder if a Onesmart would work also?

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Reply # 663900 30-Jul-2012 11:15

cyril7:
sbiddle: The convenience story / post shop in Courtenay Place has a Paypass / Paywave capable terminal.

It really is unbelievable that NZ is so stuck in the dark ages. NFC takeup in Australia is unbelievable, NZers seem to think we're tech savvy people and gloat about EFTPOS, but the reality is we're 2 years behind countries such as Australia who are currently leading the world when it comes to NFC payments.

Hi Steve, I wonder how much of that results from most retailers only having just updated their EFTPOS terminals just 12months ago.

Cyril

Smart retailers lease terminals rather an buying them so they don't have these issues.

Every terminal has to be NFC compliant and comply with the latest PCI PED standards by by April 2014, so smart retailers would be upgrading now rather than waiting for the big rush like they did with the EMV 5.2 cutoff.

ETSL and EFTPOS NZ should have taken a much tougher line with retailers last year.

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Reply # 663948 30-Jul-2012 13:06

I read somewhere that BNZ were conducting a NFC payment trial. I wonder what the status of that is?

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Reply # 664004 30-Jul-2012 14:25

My local shopping mall, Westfield Glenfield, has those TV advertising billboards in it and the other day I noticed little stickers on them that said to touch your phone to the sticker. I tried it with my S3 and got sent to a website that said "Sorry, there are no promotions currently available". I was just curious to see if it worked.

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Reply # 664031 30-Jul-2012 15:02

I'm also a little confused as to why, despite the fact I've got a credit card loaded into "wallet.google.com" (which is the one it uses for market purchases) - the card isn't recognised by the Wallet app. It appears to be a completely separate system. Am I missing something here?

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Reply # 664113 30-Jul-2012 17:23

lchiu7: I read somewhere that BNZ were conducting a NFC payment trial. I wonder what the status of that is?

They merely used the NFC Galaxy S II running the Paypass app. While it was a trial here there are already plenty of countries around the world such as the UK where they've been doing mobile NFC payments using Paypass for a few years now with suitable phones,.