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Topic # 115700 3-Apr-2013 22:03

I'm posting this because it happened TWICE now

Runs Wanam 14.1 - basically de-badged stock 4.1.2 ROM + Philz Kernel (stock kernel + root + CWM)

2 weeks ago, when screen was switched off it suddenly got stuck in a boot loop.

Removing battery, leaving it for hours, wiping delvik, nothing fixes the boot loop.

So guess what - I went into recovery mode, made a backup (BEFORE I wiped the delvik), wiped the drive, restored the backup, and lo and behold it restored to the exact state it was before it died.

Today it happened again. I knew what to do ... but the internal SD ran out of space so the backup was corrupt thankfully I had an earlier version to restore to ...

What's going on?

Should I prepare to buy the S4 ie is this going to get worse?

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Reply # 792798 3-Apr-2013 23:24

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Non stock ROM + custom kernel are your likely culprits.

AOSP ROMs always had little bugs like that when I had my S2. I kept going back to stock and self debloating and always got the best experience from that.

Also Wanam sucks. If you're going to try an AOSP ROM then go with CM.

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Reply # 792865 4-Apr-2013 07:31

bradstewart: Non stock ROM + custom kernel are your likely culprits.

AOSP ROMs always had little bugs like that when I had my S2. I kept going back to stock and self debloating and always got the best experience from that.

Also Wanam sucks. If you're going to try an AOSP ROM then go with CM.

I never had any issues on my I9100, I9100 nor my current S3 and they have all used AOSP so think you are just voicing an opinion rather than fact.

Wanam is highly thought of in the Dev community, a small bit of research will tell you that.

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Reply # 792911 4-Apr-2013 08:50

sometimes if i'm doing something on the phone and i get busy i hit the power button to go screen off ... i can't recall the first time but during the more recent crash, that's what i did prior to boot loop ...

could that be a cause?

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Reply # 792926 4-Apr-2013 09:15

had you just flashed the Rom?? if so maybe try re flashing again as could have been bad flash and it sometimes helps.

Is the lack of internal storage causing this, is it laggy??, what about Ram is it being hogged

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Reply # 792930 4-Apr-2013 09:21

ROM was flashed in February. You could say it happens once a month (one in March one in April).

Apps storage 900MB free
Internal SD 1.8GB free
RAM 600/800MB used (200MB free)

But why it causes a bootloop that can be fixed by making a backup of the bootlooping ROM and then restoring the same bootlooping copy - baffles me

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Reply # 792999 4-Apr-2013 10:49

I see there is a discussion here that may or may not be relevant.

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Reply # 793003 4-Apr-2013 10:53

wow that's exactly what it was :D glad to know i'm not alone :D

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Reply # 793008 4-Apr-2013 10:58

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bradstewart: Non stock ROM + custom kernel are your likely culprits.

AOSP ROMs always had little bugs like that when I had my S2. I kept going back to stock and self debloating and always got the best experience from that.

Also Wanam sucks. If you're going to try an AOSP ROM then go with CM.

Heh I've run Wanam on my s2 and s3 phones for at least 18 months and I've had one minor issue in all that time. I've been ROMing for at least 8 years on and off and I can't say I agree with your assessment in the slightest. They are stable and perform well and he is involved.

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Reply # 793266 4-Apr-2013 15:09

jeffnz:
bradstewart: Non stock ROM + custom kernel are your likely culprits.

AOSP ROMs always had little bugs like that when I had my S2. I kept going back to stock and self debloating and always got the best experience from that.

Also Wanam sucks. If you're going to try an AOSP ROM then go with CM.

I never had any issues on my I9100, I9100 nor my current S3 and they have all used AOSP so think you are just voicing an opinion rather than fact.

Wanam is highly thought of in the Dev community, a small bit of research will tell you that.

Generally when someone says something sucks it goes without saying it is opinion.

AOSP has always had issues on the i9100 mostly relating to terrible open source support from Samsung for Exynos. There hasn't been a stable Cyanogen release for i9100 or i9300 since CM9 and even then they say it was a mistake to release a 'stable' version for that.

I know well who Wanam is having been an XDA member since 06. I just don't like his work. My comment was in reference to the Wanam ROMs not the guy himself.

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Reply # 793270 4-Apr-2013 15:14

Never liked CM and it still has issues that others like Wanam don't.

Fine that's your opinion and as you haven't given any reason why he "sucks" we'll agree to disagree.

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Reply # 793277 4-Apr-2013 15:24

jeffnz: Never liked CM and it still has issues that others like Wanam don't.

Fine that's your opinion and as you haven't given any reason why he "sucks" we'll agree to disagree.

I never said he sucks. In fact I even clarified that in the post you are replying to!!

I tried Wanamlite several times on my S2 and kept running into issues with system processes not responding or FC'ing on boot. No amount of formatting and reflashing could fix it. So yes in my experience it sucked.

In fact that is one of the reasons I started compiling my own ROM for my S2 which I then carried over to the GNex.

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Reply # 793288 4-Apr-2013 15:47

bradstewart:

I never said he sucks. In fact I even clarified that in the post you are replying to!!

I tried Wanamlite several times on my S2 and kept running into issues with system processes not responding or FC'ing on boot. No amount of formatting and reflashing could fix it. So yes in my experience it sucked.

In fact that is one of the reasons I started compiling my own ROM for my S2 which I then carried over to the GNex.

Well yes you did say he sucked and , yes, you did clarify you meant his work and that was what I was referring to. You must have had bad luck with his roms but anecdotal evidence would point to the fact he is one of the better Rom dev's. As I say we will agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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Reply # 793298 4-Apr-2013 16:04

jeffnz: Well yes you did say he sucked and , yes, you did clarify you meant his work and that was what I was referring to.

I fail to see how you make that leap. Read the posts again. It's all about context.

joker97: Runs Wanam 14.1 - basically de-badged stock 4.1.2 ROM + Philz Kernel (stock kernel + root + CWM)

bradstewart: Also Wanam sucks. If you're going to try an AOSP ROM then go with CM.

Joker, have you tried flashing a stock 4.1.2 ROM, rooting and just removing all the unnecessary bits yourself?

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Reply # 793399 4-Apr-2013 19:03

hi no i have not because i didn't know this would happen with wanam, and my next holidays are during christmas (probably) - got to move house, and have 3 under 5s ... i can't even bear the thought of setting up a new laptop i have ordered but haven't paid for - might have to flag that too *sigh

anyway i quite like the umpteen buttons options that appear when you swipe down the notification bar and the round battery percentage mod that came with it

i gather the most likely but completely baffling culprit is the wanam as reported by others on xda

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Reply # 794371 6-Apr-2013 18:03

apologies for my rant -

I have screwed on my head a little tighter this morning and flashed stock 4.1.2 xxLSN and rooted with philz kernel (yes there were 3 + 1 very unhappy people in the house for 2-3 hrs!)

surprisingly I wanted to retrieve something from the backup of wanam I made but it restored into a failed boot

anyway will let yous know if recurrent sudden death is still lurking .... no news is good news