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Topic # 146958 4-Jun-2014 07:26
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Google is rolling out 4.4.3. It is not on my device yet but looks like primarily bug fixes. Details are here

http://www.greenbot.com/article/2358708/google-releases-android-4-4-3-for-nexus-and-aosp.html 

Cheers Matt.




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  Reply # 1060437 6-Jun-2014 15:51
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Got this OTA on my Nexus 4 this morning. Nothing much to report yet...

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That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1060455 6-Jun-2014 16:39
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mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.
Motorola also looks like a good option with the Moto G, E and X getting 4.4.3 about the same time as Nexii.  Haven't got an update for 4.4.3 for my Moto G yet but only just restored to stock.

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  Reply # 1060739 7-Jun-2014 08:43
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I shall pommel the update button on my Nexus 7 

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Athlonite: I shall pommel the update button on my Nexus 7 

 

It's great to see it has been so quickly included in Omni and CM builds for some devices.

I'm unsure whether pommeling or pummeling would do more damage to your tablet, but the former would be hilarious to see!

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jonovw:
mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.
Motorola also looks like a good option with the Moto G, E and X getting 4.4.3 about the same time as Nexii.  Haven't got an update for 4.4.3 for my Moto G yet but only just restored to stock.


The latest version of iOS is now 8, so in effect unless you are a developer or have side loaded 8 on to a jailbroken iDevice then you are part of the 99.9% of iOS users that aren't on the latest version.
Funny how statistics can be used to skew things.
Consider this, if you looked at Android devices only by the major version change, that is when it went from 3.2.6. to 4.0 (honeycomb to ice cream sandwich) then how many android devices are on the latest (4.X.X) version?
I have an ASUS TF101 that started life on honeycomb but is currently running Kitkat, courtesy of a custom rom. The TF101was never officially upgraded beyond ICS , so as far as statistics are concerned, is it on ICS, Kitkat or both?

I have always considered the Nexus devices as developer machines, and as such are justified to have the latest version of android. But in a lot of ways you have to accept being a beta tester for the new version as well. The answer is to root and load a custom rom for your particular device if you need to be at the leading edge. If you want to remain stock then you are at the mercy of the OEMs and providers.

Will I upgrade the TF101 to 4.4.3? Hell yes. My other android devices? Meh , not so much.




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  Reply # 1060803 7-Jun-2014 11:11
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Dingbatt:
jonovw:
mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.
Motorola also looks like a good option with the Moto G, E and X getting 4.4.3 about the same time as Nexii.  Haven't got an update for 4.4.3 for my Moto G yet but only just restored to stock.


The latest version of iOS is now 8, so in effect unless you are a developer or have side loaded 8 on to a jailbroken iDevice then you are part of the 99.9% of iOS users that aren't on the latest version.
Funny how statistics can be used to skew things.
Consider this, if you looked at Android devices only by the major version change, that is when it went from 3.2.6. to 4.0 (honeycomb to ice cream sandwich) then how many android devices are on the latest (4.X.X) version?
I have an ASUS TF101 that started life on honeycomb but is currently running Kitkat, courtesy of a custom rom. The TF101was never officially upgraded beyond ICS , so as far as statistics are concerned, is it on ICS, Kitkat or both?

I have always considered the Nexus devices as developer machines, and as such are justified to have the latest version of android. But in a lot of ways you have to accept being a beta tester for the new version as well. The answer is to root and load a custom rom for your particular device if you need to be at the leading edge. If you want to remain stock then you are at the mercy of the OEMs and providers.

Will I upgrade the TF101 to 4.4.3? Hell yes. My other android devices? Meh , not so much.


Lol do you have any idea what jail breaking is? It you loaded iOS onto a supported device (4S+?) you would straight away lose your jailbreak. I'm on 7.0.4 so if I went to 7.1 I'd lose it too.

Ios8 isn't an official release either. I'm sure google probably has their own developer builds that aren't available to the public. So does that mean even more android phones are out of date too because they aren't running a highly Unstable test build of an OS ?

I only just got kitkat (4.4.2?) on my Xperia Z last night. Now I'm already out of date and I'm fairly sure it'll never see another update in its lifetime from sony.




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  Reply # 1060807 7-Jun-2014 11:17
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Dingbatt: I have an ASUS TF101 that started life on honeycomb but is currently running Kitkat, courtesy of a custom rom. The TF101was never officially upgraded beyond ICS , so as far as statistics are concerned, is it on ICS, Kitkat or both?

Will I upgrade the TF101 to 4.4.3? Hell yes. My other android devices? Meh , not so much.


Interesting question, but one for which there'll probably never be an answer as it's all a stats game - lies, damn lies and statistics...

I have a TF101 as well. Running Katkiss 4.4.2 with Apex Launcher absolutely beautifully. Downloading 4.4.3 now :-)

For my Samsung Galaxy Note II LTE I think I'll switch from CyanogenMod as they seem to have lost the plot. OmniROM is looking like my next stop - downloading that too. One thing I do miss about not being on stock though is HDMI output

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  Reply # 1060819 7-Jun-2014 11:48
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tardtasticx:
Dingbatt:
jonovw:
mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.
Motorola also looks like a good option with the Moto G, E and X getting 4.4.3 about the same time as Nexii.  Haven't got an update for 4.4.3 for my Moto G yet but only just restored to stock.


The latest version of iOS is now 8, so in effect unless you are a developer or have side loaded 8 on to a jailbroken iDevice then you are part of the 99.9% of iOS users that aren't on the latest version.
Funny how statistics can be used to skew things.
Consider this, if you looked at Android devices only by the major version change, that is when it went from 3.2.6. to 4.0 (honeycomb to ice cream sandwich) then how many android devices are on the latest (4.X.X) version?
I have an ASUS TF101 that started life on honeycomb but is currently running Kitkat, courtesy of a custom rom. The TF101was never officially upgraded beyond ICS , so as far as statistics are concerned, is it on ICS, Kitkat or both?

I have always considered the Nexus devices as developer machines, and as such are justified to have the latest version of android. But in a lot of ways you have to accept being a beta tester for the new version as well. The answer is to root and load a custom rom for your particular device if you need to be at the leading edge. If you want to remain stock then you are at the mercy of the OEMs and providers.

Will I upgrade the TF101 to 4.4.3? Hell yes. My other android devices? Meh , not so much.


Lol do you have any idea what jail breaking is? It you loaded iOS onto a supported device (4S+?) you would straight away lose your jailbreak. I'm on 7.0.4 so if I went to 7.1 I'd lose it too.

Ios8 isn't an official release either. I'm sure google probably has their own developer builds that aren't available to the public. So does that mean even more android phones are out of date too because they aren't running a highly Unstable test build of an OS ?

I only just got kitkat (4.4.2?) on my Xperia Z last night. Now I'm already out of date and I'm fairly sure it'll never see another update in its lifetime from sony.


I admit I am not familiar with the darker side of iOS jail breaking, but you miss the point I was trying to make. Uptake stats can prove or disprove almost anything depending on the parameters set. Are you saying in your example above that you are on the latest version of iOS or not? (7.0.4 vs 7.1). If you contend that you are, then how is that different from saying you are on the latest version of android because you are running 4.3.0? Or perhaps 4.4.2 vs 4.4.3 is a better example because they are both kitkat . Lies, damn lies, etc......

There is already a CM11 nightly build of 4.4.3 available for the Xperia Z if you want to hang over the edge :-)




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  Reply # 1061112 7-Jun-2014 23:42
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A Nexus 4 at my house upgraded to v4.4.3 yesterday. But my two Nexus 5 phones are still waiting for the update. 

I have a Nexus 10 tablet.

If they upgraded the Nexus 4 (which they clearly did)......maybe my Nexus 10 will be updated, too. Or maybe not.  




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  Reply # 1061141 8-Jun-2014 01:35
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Dingbatt:
tardtasticx:
Dingbatt:
jonovw:
mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.
Motorola also looks like a good option with the Moto G, E and X getting 4.4.3 about the same time as Nexii.  Haven't got an update for 4.4.3 for my Moto G yet but only just restored to stock.


The latest version of iOS is now 8, so in effect unless you are a developer or have side loaded 8 on to a jailbroken iDevice then you are part of the 99.9% of iOS users that aren't on the latest version.
Funny how statistics can be used to skew things.
Consider this, if you looked at Android devices only by the major version change, that is when it went from 3.2.6. to 4.0 (honeycomb to ice cream sandwich) then how many android devices are on the latest (4.X.X) version?
I have an ASUS TF101 that started life on honeycomb but is currently running Kitkat, courtesy of a custom rom. The TF101was never officially upgraded beyond ICS , so as far as statistics are concerned, is it on ICS, Kitkat or both?

I have always considered the Nexus devices as developer machines, and as such are justified to have the latest version of android. But in a lot of ways you have to accept being a beta tester for the new version as well. The answer is to root and load a custom rom for your particular device if you need to be at the leading edge. If you want to remain stock then you are at the mercy of the OEMs and providers.

Will I upgrade the TF101 to 4.4.3? Hell yes. My other android devices? Meh , not so much.


Lol do you have any idea what jail breaking is? It you loaded iOS onto a supported device (4S+?) you would straight away lose your jailbreak. I'm on 7.0.4 so if I went to 7.1 I'd lose it too.

Ios8 isn't an official release either. I'm sure google probably has their own developer builds that aren't available to the public. So does that mean even more android phones are out of date too because they aren't running a highly Unstable test build of an OS ?

I only just got kitkat (4.4.2?) on my Xperia Z last night. Now I'm already out of date and I'm fairly sure it'll never see another update in its lifetime from sony.


I admit I am not familiar with the darker side of iOS jail breaking, but you miss the point I was trying to make. Uptake stats can prove or disprove almost anything depending on the parameters set. Are you saying in your example above that you are on the latest version of iOS or not? (7.0.4 vs 7.1). If you contend that you are, then how is that different from saying you are on the latest version of android because you are running 4.3.0? Or perhaps 4.4.2 vs 4.4.3 is a better example because they are both kitkat . Lies, damn lies, etc......

There is already a CM11 nightly build of 4.4.3 available for the Xperia Z if you want to hang over the edge :-)



Sorry for not being clear enough. Reading that back it actually sounds kind of rude, so sorry about that. 

When I was talking about my iOS version, I was meaning that I'm not on the latest build because I'd lose my jailbreak if I updated, referring back to the jailbreak and installing an OS on top of it thing that you mentioned earlier. 

IIRC, iOS 7.1.1 is the latest build available to the public. That's what the article will most likely be referring to as well. Considering a Developer build in those stats wouldn't be right as most of the public would have no idea on how to even get it. Not to mention you aren't meant to legally have it if you don't pay for a developer account from Apple. So I think 60+% or whatever it was is the correct number. This would also be vastly due to the fact apple rolls these updates out to all their phones that support it at once (in this case 4S and up), in every country and for every operator. Compared to android which has huge fragmentation due to operator builds, manufacturers only rolling out to certain regions etc. 

re: CM. I have toyed with that in the past before my Z was replaced (faulty repair, long story :P). Loved it, and will deffo be doing it again. Need to shop for a good build though as theres so damn many to pick from! Haha




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mattwnz: That's one of the benefits of buying a google device over a samsumg galaxy, I am still waiting for 4.4 from them. Apparently according to apple, only 9% of android users are on the latest version of android, compared to 70+ % on the latest version of IOS. That is a concern. Next time I will buy from the OS creator, whether that be Microsoft, Apple or Google, so I get the latest updates when they are released.


I think you might be misattributing blame there?

My Note 3 has had 4.4 since February (or was it January?, can't recall), reason for getting it then was mine is Pl, not purchased from a NZ telco. NZ new ones just got the update a few weeks ago I think...

Also, far too much FOMO around these updates, since 4.2 many of the changes have not been user-facing. Worth asking yourself if the update brings anything worth angsting over.




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  Reply # 1061160 8-Jun-2014 09:02
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Batwing:
Athlonite: I shall pommel the update button on my Nexus 7 
It's great to see it has been so quickly included in Omni and CM builds for some devices.

I'm unsure whether pommeling or pummeling would do more damage to your tablet, but the former would be hilarious to see!



Yes your right I shall Pummel it as the pommelling it would look rather weird imagine me swinging round it like a monkey with it's butt on fire ROFL

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New camera stuff too, which I haven't got to play with yet smile




 

 

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  Reply # 1061166 8-Jun-2014 09:23
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I still believe the Nexus devices are aimed at the geeky end of the market rather than general consumers. For most OEMs the customer experience far outweighs the current-ness of the underlying software.



Still looking for a decent precis of what 4.4.3 gives over 4.4.2.

OT: I wonder if Apple will sue Samsung for copying their walled garden approach by introducing Tizen? At least that may produce another closed system that will be updated quickly.....




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