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#157299 27-Nov-2014 01:42
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It's a little sad no?

Freemium, and in store purchases. Low dollar value software with small functionality, and little cross hardware testing or support. 

I guess its because the main market has been phones. And the users of phones aren't exactly as a whole, discerning power users.

But when it comes to a more high end touch computing experience, one finds a lot lacking that could be better. Professional or tool software that isn't quite up to scratch. And yes, the title example, games - games could be amazing on touch devices - and if people were playing them on a tablet or bigger phone on their sofa or in bed, instead of bored at the bus stop, they might be willing to pay more dosh for it.

I'm happy to pay more for android software. But I guess for the market to respond to that, more people have to be willing to pay decent upfront money, and that requires higher demands. Unfortunately windows has the business sector more sown up. But with google docs apps coming native, that may change a little. 

IDK, its a rambly pointless pontification, but it does irk me the shape and form that the google play store currently takes - designed more or less to trick you into paying money for something that should be worth less, when I'd be happy to pay more for better. 




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  #1183860 27-Nov-2014 10:00
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Whats the reason for choosing an Android tablet over a Windows tablet in the first instance? 

-because you have a matching phone
-because they are cheaper
-because there are more apps (taking into account your quality measure above)
-because they better (why?)




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  #1183866 27-Nov-2014 10:18
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You either want a platform with apps or a platform with apps and full programs.

Apps are very good at specific tasks or small sets of functionality. They don't require much power. Full programs on the other hand are feature rich.

You can have a cheap Android tablet and have apps or you can get a Windows 8.1 tablet and get apps or full programs.

What really annoys me in apps these days is the "in-app purchase". While this is good for trials, it's a pain in games - where they give gamers a few "coins", "credits", or whatever and once they run out they need to buy more for $0.99... At $0.99 a pop after a few days people already paid for what a good PC/console game would cost anyway.






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  #1184047 27-Nov-2014 13:48
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Well, no a windows tablet isn't cheaper from the brands and markets I look at, android is much cheaper.  

Also windows doesn't really work on tablets under 9 inches. Everything is too small (because its still essentially a desktop os too).

I agree that software written for desktop users tends to be a lot better - and thusly all the same if you are going 9+ inch, windows is a worthy consideration. 

As for the phone end, personally I am not much for computing heavily on smaller devices, with high frequency. I actually prefer to use my phone mostly as a phone. 




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  #1184055 27-Nov-2014 13:55
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I beg to difer: HP Stream 7 currently US$99.99 on Amazon (it ships to New Zealand). HP Stream 7 discussion here on Geekzone with people already receiving their devices and comments.




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  #1184064 27-Nov-2014 13:58
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freitasm: You either want a platform with apps or a platform with apps and full programs.

Apps are very good at specific tasks or small sets of functionality. They don't require much power. Full programs on the other hand are feature rich.

You can have a cheap Android tablet and have apps or you can get a Windows 8.1 tablet and get apps or full programs.

What really annoys me in apps these days is the "in-app purchase". While this is good for trials, it's a pain in games - where they give gamers a few "coins", "credits", or whatever and once they run out they need to buy more for $0.99... At $0.99 a pop after a few days people already paid for what a good PC/console game would cost anyway.




Thats what they used to have demo's, shareware, trials and other things for on PC. 

In app purchases are just designed to juice out of undiscriminating users, more than the software is worth, to make just barely useful software less annoying. South park did an episode on it. It's seriously terrible. No one should download freemium games or even freemium software. Ad supported, fine. But no freemium. 

I am glad google play now announced in app purchases before download - that way you can avoid them all together. 

The trouble is, a new higher end spec tablet (cheaper or not) or even some phones, have pretty good hardware. Even the storage speeds are catching up. In terms of what can run on a tablet (with or without a keyboard), most of what is on the google play market is completely sub par. With games as an example - top down rpgs are awesome to play on a tablet. A far more casual experience than on desktop. And there are only two of them, both PC ports. Most of the games are freemium nonsense that have no depth, no hardward compatibility, no real support, because most of the users are phone users who don't really want a decent game - they want a waste of time at the bus stop or doctors office. 






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  #1184068 27-Nov-2014 14:02
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freitasm: I beg to difer: HP Stream 7 currently US$99.99 on Amazon (it ships to New Zealand). HP Stream 7 discussion here on Geekzone with people already receiving their devices and comments.


Hmm, that is pretty cheap. No one really wants a seven inch though, as I said before, because windows is desktop compatible and there's no OS zoom function, everything is a bit small on a seven inch. At least everyone I spoke to who uses windows on a tablet says its really only just useable on a larger tablet. 

Still whatever the battery specs, storage speed etc (most tablets have 2gb or more ram, and fast nand etc these days), if it can run windows without being slow, that's a good deal, money wise.




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#1184075 27-Nov-2014 14:05
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Dreal: ... No one really wants a seven inch though...


True, everyone seem to be fixated on bigger ones. ;-)




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  #1184112 27-Nov-2014 14:41
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Well that too. Generally people are obsessed with bigger screens, even though a nice sized eight inch or seven inch is far more convienient (easy one handed use) and portable. 




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