Chromecast - Mirroring TVNZ and TV3 to TV issues

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ekim1

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#160410 6-Jan-2015 07:10

Hi all,

I just bought a Chromecast mainly so I can 'mirror' TVNZ and TV3 on demand from my tablet (Samsung Tab4 8.0) onto my tv.

TVNZ app: It seems to work ok initially, ad plays fine, but then as soon as the show starts all I can see if a black box where the image should be. Sound still plays.

TV3 app: As soon as I open the TV3 on demand app (while the tablet is 'mirroring' to my Chromecast/TV I get a message something like 'you are trying to play the image on a different screen' then the app closes.

Anyone else experienced this? Anything I can do as a 'work around' to get it to work?

Thanks.

EDIT: As a side note, SkyGo mirrors across fine.

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#1209037 6-Jan-2015 10:42

I wonder if its something to do with the way they have both tied their apps to be available 'exclusively' on samsung devices?
Your tablet obviously is Samsung - but the Chromecast is not.
I wouldnt totally put money on it - but someone explained it that the chromecast actually loads some of the android app code when you cast.
If the app doesnt like chromecast it wont work.

If you have a windows PC (presumably mac as well) you can install the chrome browser and install the chromecast extension.
You should be able to fire up TVNZ/TV3 on demand in chrome and cast that content to the chromecast.
I havent tested this myself but have cast other streaming content to the chromecast from my browser with good results.

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ekim1

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#1209041 6-Jan-2015 10:53

Thanks for the reply.

Yip, I have tried using the laptop (PC) with the Chromecast extension in Chrome. It works well with On Demand and movies etc.

Unfortunately part of the reason for us getting the Tablet was as a replacement for the laptop. Hopefully I can find a solution.

Cheers.

robjg63

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#1209057 6-Jan-2015 11:12

What you could do (sorry - $$ required) is buy an Amazon fire TV (or stick).
These support miracast now.
This lets you 'share your screen' (mirror) from an android device (double check your sammy has the right version of Android and supports miracast) to the AFTV device.

I tried this from my Note 2 - works fine - the whole phone desktop and audio goes to the Fire TV.

I tried my Sony xperia tablet Z and was quite annoyed to find that it doesnt work. The phone/tablet has to be able to support the ability to transmit to the internet and to the Fire TV at the same time - I guess its effectively 2 radios at once. While a couple of people reckon the Sony has the hardware inside and is 'certified' for Miracast it certainly cant stream from the internet to the miracast device (Fire TV) at the same time.

For the record pretty sure the AFTV also supports chromecasting abilities - so youtube etc would work fine - you wouldnt be able to use TVNZ/TV3 though as those apps wont run/cant be installed on the Fire TV.

Kind of annoying there are so many different protocols for trying to achieve the same thing (add in apple airplay!)

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robjg63

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#1209093 6-Jan-2015 11:30

Hmm - does the chromecast support screen mirroring from android to chromecast?

http://www.androidcentral.com/how-mirror-your-android-screen-chromecast

Maybe it does - give that a try and see if it works....

EDIT: Another article here http://www.omgchrome.com/mirror-android-screen-tv-chromecast/

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ekim1

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#1209294 6-Jan-2015 15:20

Chromecast definitely does support screen mirroring.

It works GREAT except when I try use mirror TVNZ ondemand or TV3 on demand as mentioned in original post.

Cheers.

IronH

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#1209571 6-Jan-2015 22:19

probably a similar thing with Apple products, I can stream TVondemand from Macbook Pro to the TV using Airplay but doesn't work from iPad.

I can watch TVondemand from my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 and Galaxy S4/S5 if I physically connect it to my TV over MHL. I was thinking of getting a Chromecast to try casting TVondemand, but thanks to you I now know it doesn't work so won't bother buying one now, cheers for that :) Does anyone have one of those Samsung streaming hubs? Wonder if it'll work with one of them.

ekim1

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#1209623 7-Jan-2015 06:44

Yip, I was going to go with a cable to the TV via MHL but unfortunately the Samsung Tab 4 does not support it (from what I read).

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Seendie

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#1247173 26-Feb-2015 15:55

EKIM 1 a question for you.

I see you have no problem using Chromecast from your laptop to your TV. I cannot get TVNZ on demand to cast? I have a sony TV . How do you get it operating for you?? Thanks for the help it is driving me crazy..

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#1247206 26-Feb-2015 17:01

Seendie: EKIM 1 a question for you.

I see you have no problem using Chromecast from your laptop to your TV. I cannot get TVNZ on demand to cast? I have a sony TV . How do you get it operating for you?? Thanks for the help it is driving me crazy..

I just tried this out of curiosity and can get TVNZ and TV3 on demand to stream from my PC to a chromecast connected to my TV.

Try this list:
You have a device (laptop/PC) with the chrome browser installed.
You have gone into settings/extensions/get more extensions and have installed the chromecast extension for the chrome browser.
You have wifi in your house and the above computer is connected to the same network (cable or wifi) that the chromecast will be using.
You have a chromecast hooked up to your TV.
The chromecast is set up properly? You do need a wireless device (smartphone/tablet) and need to run the setup program to get it connected to your network. You can use a wifi laptop as well.

You can open chrome and go to TVNZ on demand and start something playing.
You should see a cast icon up in the top right of chrome - if you click this it should show the chromecasts it can find and you should be able to start casting.

This works for me - the only thing I had to do was block googles DNS servers in my router.
This is because the device wants to use googles DNS to work out where it is and this can cause issues.
Here is a link on how to block the servers http://help.unotelly.com/support/solutions/articles/192836-why-do-i-need-to-block-public-dns
I do actually use Unotelly - though I dont think that should make a difference in this case.

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Seendie

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#1247803 27-Feb-2015 13:32

Hi Robjg - thank you so much for the in depth reply, I am about to throw in the towel and find me a geek on wheels - I read the link you sent me and looking at the router list my one is not on there, it does say ISP provided routers generally do not have static routing capabilities, and as my one is an ISP provided router not sure if I can do anything with it.

It seems to be so near yet so far, the casting starts then promptly stops, like something put the brakes on. I am not an IT expert at all so frustrating..

Hey it is great to see such a brilliant forum for folk like myself and people that are willing to pass on information.

Cheers Seendie

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#1247822 27-Feb-2015 14:12

Aww Seendie - dont give up yet!
You are using a laptop on your home network arent you?
Are you using an ISP with global mode turned on by any chance (orcon/slingshot?)

Have a look at your router and post the details you can find about it (maybe the ISP name if they supplied it).
Someone is bound to know about it!
I have seen some stuff about making changes to Spark/Vodafone supplied routers - dont give up hope yet!

Just reading back through the posts.... If you open up chrome on your laptop and you have the chromecast extension installed, what happens if you go to youtube.com, start playing a video and click the cast icon - can you see your chromecast - does it start playing?
There is really any reason why that shouldnt play on your chromecast without you needing to change any network settings.
At least that would test your chromecast works ok.

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Seendie

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#1247836 27-Feb-2015 14:42

Haha you will have me operating if it drives you crazy (which it will trust me).

Yes I get Youtube no problem whatsoever through my chromecast from my Laptop to my Sony Bravia TV.

I Love to stream movies from Primewire and that is another reason I need to get this darned chromecast happening, at present we use HDMI cords.

Okay my Router is from Spark - it is a Huawei HG630B Gateway, anything else you need to know.

As I said it wants to connect but stops short of going, the picture is there and the sound for a second, then boom it comes to a shuddering halt?

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#1248079 27-Feb-2015 20:45

So I think I mentioned I use Unotelly - I dont think that is relevant for primewire as its not a business site that uses geoblocking.
I do have google DNS blocked in my router - again - not relevant as there is not a google app for primewire.

I just signed up to try primewire - got it playing in my chrome browser, then cast it to the chromecast - it was playing fine - audio and video.
Tried a random TV program (one of the recent episodes of 'Episodes - The one starring Matt LeBlanc') and a Movie called Mr Turner.
Played for about 2 minutes before I stopped them - Both played fine.

Do they play ok in your browser?
When you cast do they keep playing in the browser even though they might halt on the chromecast.
What sort of signal strength does your chromecast show?
When you cast - try the 'options' and try setting the resolution to 480p - should use less wifi bandwidth - does that help?

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#1248129 27-Feb-2015 23:09

I purchased a cheap pc to connect to my TV for playing on demand and lightbox, and use a Logitech touchpad to control it. A lot easier than using the chromecast. I use a chromecast for something, such as YouTube, but it is restricted, plus it regally disconnects from the network.

Seendie

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#1248225 28-Feb-2015 08:55

Right o will give what you suggest a try! Can't believe you had primewire streaming no problem! Getting away for a couple of days but will be back tackle my It problem

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