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#193526 14-Mar-2016 12:17
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I was just going through my SGS7 and moving whatever apps i can to the 128GB Micro-SD card. 

 

I hit "F" in the list....and found that Facebook is 242MB + 23MB of data and it can't be moved anywhere or uninstalled because it's part of Samsung's preloaded software. 

 

Fark.....

 

I may look at rooting this phone sooner rather than later if space becomes an issue. 

 

 

 

 





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  #1512962 14-Mar-2016 12:27
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Tinfoil for facebook or metal for facebook are great alternatives. they're wrappers for the mobile website.





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  #1512968 14-Mar-2016 12:38
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Doesn't get rid of the bloatware though. The problem is that it cannot be uninstalled. Rather annoying.

I use Chrome if I want to look at anything on Facebook. Would rather the app not be on the phone at all!




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  #1512970 14-Mar-2016 12:39
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mentalinc:

 

Tinfoil for facebook or metal for facebook are great alternatives. they're wrappers for the mobile website.

 

 

Thanks. :-)  

 

 

 

....but I'd like to get my 260-ish MB back first. Hmm. Looking down the list there quite a number of huge, useless (to me) apps on the phone. 





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  #1512972 14-Mar-2016 12:42
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Samsung still love their bloat!




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  #1512973 14-Mar-2016 12:42
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thats why i stick to apple or googles own phones


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  #1512974 14-Mar-2016 12:44
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Thats what has put me off the flagship Samsungs all along.  I want Android the way Google made it.  Highly recommend a Nexus for your next phone!


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I've not updated my S3 from an old 1.6 APK for that reason. The way they seem to make it 'faster' is pre-cache the feed. To the point of downloading the hi-res versions of images for better scaling across platforms.

 

Epic sizes in the later versions. Its as bad as google play services using 3 different instances and most the ram of a 512/1Mb device

 

 

 

Watching my task manager is like windows swapfile. You have to wait for one notification task to finish before it can close and start the next. All the while the rest are in a restarting... loop




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  #1513004 14-Mar-2016 13:19
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the worse thing with FB app is it crashing a heap (espc with recent updates from Nov 2015) and was causing my tablet to lock up

 

I uninstalled it completely (however you might need root like myself to remove it completely

 

if its added as a base system app)

 

 

 

some game connect to FB but you dont need the app to do that.. browser cookie or alike is used

 

 

 

whats annoying is android memory management of partitions.. devs got google to remove move to sd option

 

and many devices still partition it with 2gb and if install apps espc games the data is unmovable

 

and you cant simply use a app to increase the internal partitions

 

 

 

i see samsung tablet uses the full 16gb for app and data .. that needs to be the standard on all devices

 

now. even 16gb is easy to fill.. 64gb is needed soon for slot gaming apps LOL


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  #1513005 14-Mar-2016 13:20
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itxtme:

 

Thats what has put me off the flagship Samsungs all along.  I want Android the way Google made it.  Highly recommend a Nexus for your next phone!

 

 

I just switched to a plain Android, after years with Touchwiz. Android 6 is usable, but basic stuff like toggling Wifi/mobile data is more difficult that it should be. Ring profiles and such as well. Android is still an average phone, Touchwiz improves on it in many ways. Plus battery use seems higher on Android 6, but I haven't fully optimised the phone yet.


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  #1513010 14-Mar-2016 13:23
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I used framaroot 1.9 apk (no PC usb cable and other soft needed) on moms samsung tablet (note 10.1) and it worked guess wasnt patched in firmware

 

so the cpu exploit works, why google dont make it easy to have root as a option and void warranty beats me

 

you need it for firewalls and better control on your own device.. including apps like Frep which can be used to collect game bonuses as you sleep


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  #1513046 14-Mar-2016 14:02
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Not sure if its still an issue but facebook 'sync' used to kill battery life too. Its like they're main goal is hogging resources.


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  #1513053 14-Mar-2016 14:14
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I'm not sure if rooting would even help, as there is a data partition and a system partiton, The facebook app sounds like its on the system partition if it cannot be disabled/uninstalled. Even if you could delete it from the system partition, the partition is a fixed size.

 

Do you feel storage is going to become an issue? I mean you still have 32gbs, and can put some stuff on the SD card


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  #1513072 14-Mar-2016 14:33
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yes you can delete any bloatware .. theres apps that help deleting.. when root. rom manager I think has

 

and sd2link rings a bell. but you can find the apk and its data and delete manually once got RW

 

folder explorer with root or root explorer etc

 

 

 

deleting it will give back 240mb to the 2gb right

 

 

 

but no easy way to extend the 2gib upwards even if the SD card is part of the same memory

 

 

 

[                     internal      memory       16gb ]

 

[   2gb system area ][ 14gb internal SD ]  partitions         + [ Ext SD Card 2-4-8-16-32gb ]

 

 

 

theres not such thing as partition manager for droid SADLY like have for windows

 

it uses some sort of complicated partition file for mapping.. can read about it for those dual boot androids

 

with android+win10 on them for teclast x98 tablets as many wanted to adjust sizing of the internal

 

32/64gb


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  #1513074 14-Mar-2016 14:34
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If you root you can delete anything you want, even in the system partition. I did it when I was running WanamLite on my S4. On CM13 I deleted an app in the sys\priv-app folder just this morning - though I did put it there myself.


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  #1513082 14-Mar-2016 14:57
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The issue isn't really what you can do once you have root access. The issue is that you need root access to get rid of useless, unwanted, space wasting rubbish in the first place. Premium products at premium prices should be free from bloatware.




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