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#272701 10-Jul-2020 08:19
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There have been controversial rumours over the last few days around Apple and Samsung deciding not to include chargers in the box in future phone releases.

 

It doesn't personally affect me, for the last few years I have stopped using the charger that came with the phone in the box and have a few third party chargers lying around.

 

Got a S20U this year and bought a third party GaN charger and powerbank that supports 45W fast charging.

 

In case anyone who has S20U or Note 10+ that's interested:

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001221332629.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.338477f2dgY5N5&algo_pvid=00fabc47-f45c-41da-931d-975fa10a6f5e&algo_expid=00fabc47-f45c-41da-931d-975fa10a6f5e-3&btsid=0ab6fa8115943247779122034eea3a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000954859428.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3fb576fbMFbnse&algo_pvid=49765c2c-2326-4704-adcb-deb20f9ddc8b&algo_expid=49765c2c-2326-4704-adcb-deb20f9ddc8b-1&btsid=0ab6fab215943248375645274e8573&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

I guess it also depends on what phone you've decided to go for, there are lots of third party chargers that support fast charging on Samsung and Apple phones but not so much for the likes of the proprietary Oneplus Warp Charge, where you'd pretty much have to stick to OEM charger, again Aliexpress is your friend in this case if you wanted to source a spare one, albeit with overseas plugs.

 

One of the rumoured reasons to drop the chargers is to keep costs down but my concern is are they really passing the savings to us consumers, especially with flagships now including 5G, which is pushing up the phone prices?

 

I am curious to know what's everyone's thoughts on this?


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  #2520530 10-Jul-2020 08:25
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It's just a rumor for now and nothing else


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  #2520536 10-Jul-2020 08:39
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If true, it means the eventual purchaser of my current phone better already have a charger, since they won't be getting mine!


 
 
 
 


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  #2520537 10-Jul-2020 08:39
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I am torn on this. On one hand it seems like a cynical attempt to cut costs. On the other hand I have plenty of charging bricks scattered around and there must be an environmental cost associated with having a whole lot of unwanted chargers going to landfill.


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  #2520539 10-Jul-2020 08:44
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People ditch old phones but the chargers remain usable. We have a significant collection of chargers from past phones, so it's not a major problem if my next phone does not come with a charger.

 

I think it's a good idea to reduce the price of the phone and consumers separately buy chargers as they need them, rather than continually flood the globe with a bundled chargers that aren't really needed. 

 

 


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  #2520556 10-Jul-2020 09:14
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alasta:

I am torn on this. On one hand it seems like a cynical attempt to cut costs. On the other hand I have plenty of charging bricks scattered around and there must be an environmental cost associated with having a whole lot of unwanted chargers going to landfill.



That's fine so long as the phone uses a common charging method. If it was sold on the strength of its Turbo recharged battery you would feel short changed if all you had were 500mA chargers.

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  #2520564 10-Jul-2020 09:29
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I have taken to saving the box, earphones and charger+cable in their original ‘newness’ so that when o eventually resell the phone (every 2 years) I still have an ‘as new’ product to sell. I have countless iPad chargers Lying around and have bought a few wireless chargers now for the iPhoneXR+, but the iPhone 11 switch to usb3 will catch me out there 🤔

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  #2520570 10-Jul-2020 09:37
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My only issue with this is the move to USB-C. 

 

My iPhone 11 Pro came with a "fast charger" that also had a USB-C to Lightning cable. 

 

If I didn't have that charging brick, I'd be stuffed. It's literally the only USB-C wall charger I have. All others are either standard USB (old style Apple chargers) or wireless. Even my multi-device chargers (4 slots) are standard USB and not USB-C.

 

I have USB-C to USB-A cables (for instance my GoPro charging cable) but again - that's not USB-C at the wall. 

 

I agree that there are loads of charging bricks floating around in my home, but like others have said, when I move my products on to a new owner, the box, cable and charger all go with it (along with unused EarPods). 

 

If I were to buy second hand I'd be a bit peeved if I didn't get a charger...and that's theoretically where this will go in the future. Add another $X for a charger if you don't already have one. 

 

 

 

 





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  #2520572 10-Jul-2020 09:40
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Behodar:

 

If true, it means the eventual purchaser of my current phone better already have a charger, since they won't be getting mine!

 

 

Don't worry, they'll probably have heaps lying around, just like everyone else on the planet (-;


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  #2520582 10-Jul-2020 09:52
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Meh, I use wireless charging at home with two charging pads. If I’m driving anywhere the cars already have USB to lightning cables for CarPlay.

My fly-away kit contains 2x 12w iPad chargers, 2x 5w chargers and enough cables to charge the 2 iPads (one work, one personal), my phone and Apple Watch. I just grab that whenever I’m overnighting anywhere.

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  #2520620 10-Jul-2020 10:45
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I have no problem with this unless the technology is changing. The manufacturer should be required to include the charging hardware when they update the technology.

 

 

 

Between my wife and I we've had 10 iPhones and 5 iPads over the last 8-9 years. I have more Apple chargers in my house than I have power points!


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  #2520624 10-Jul-2020 10:57
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Hands up those who use the out of box charger especially Apple?..........hmmmm

 

I have a drawer full of chargers, cables and Apple stickers that do not get used. I have Wireless charging in the car, caravan and numerous spots around the home. The 5w "free" iPhone charger is slower than a Model T Ford going up Hatepe hill with a strong head wind. These things are a waste of resources and a cause of considerable E waste. 

 

Personally I welcome their demise.





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  #2520627 10-Jul-2020 11:06
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Chargers, cables, and headphones are the untouched things you'll find in each of my device boxes from the at least the last 2-3 generations.  This is fine with me.


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  #2520652 10-Jul-2020 11:39
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Will simplify logistics for them since they wont have to put a seperate charger into small markets like AU/NZ at the point where they pack the phones.

 

Its a good move. So long as they still provide the propitiatory cable with apple stuff then no big deal.





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  #2520659 10-Jul-2020 11:43
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My biggest hope is that they move to USB-C for the iPhones, then I can just keep a single cable in the car for Android Auto/CarPlay depending on if it's me or my wife driving.  I've tried all sorts of multi-ended cables (including one from Mighty Ape's daily deal yesterday which DOESN'T WORK AT ALL), and they are not great, so we keep one of each cable dangled over the steering column at the moment.  


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  #2520691 10-Jul-2020 11:59
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Most likely related to https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/iphone-charger-single-usb-android-eu-parliament-europe-vote-a9311696.html

 

While I agree this is a good move to save on e-waste. I do hope that they have a proper transition to the standard whatever that may be.


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