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Topic # 67462 2-Sep-2010 12:48
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I read this morning on both Gizmodo and Engadget that the Milestone 2 is now official.

So that means whilst Telecom are STILL trying to get the Milestone 1 out the door, it has not only been end-of-lifed, but also replaced with a new model.

The Milestone 2 looks like a great update, keeping the keyboard but improving it and the CPU speed, camera resolution, and YIPPEE, 720p video recording out of the box!  And best of all Android 2.2.

It does run MOTORBLUR aparently, not sure if that's good or bad.

Official details are here:

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/Milestone-2-XW-EN

And since it may take a while to get here, I checked Clove and they already have a page for it:

http://clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=1A541B2C-237C-4F27-B5CA-2048E962D9A3

I haven't read any information on a 850Mhz version, at this rate I would expect one for Christmas 2012, just as the world is ending ;-)

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  Reply # 375865 2-Sep-2010 16:44
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Maybe Telecom were hanging out for the Milestone 2, then? 

Or maybe this is all about parts shortages across the board..... 




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  Reply # 375893 2-Sep-2010 17:30
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The update will be tested by network operators and Moto, then submitted to Google for approvals. From there, existing stock can be reflashed to M2, else ship with M1 with a OTA upgrade.

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  Reply # 375895 2-Sep-2010 17:38
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Probably largely parts related. I don't think anyone was prepared for the explosion in smart phone sales seen because of the work of Android and iOS3/4.

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  Reply # 375909 2-Sep-2010 18:13
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aim: Probably largely parts related. I don't think anyone was prepared for the explosion in smart phone sales seen because of the work of Android and iOS3/4.


The stock already exists and their work order allotment allocated to TNZ.



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  Reply # 375919 2-Sep-2010 18:48
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digitaldivide: The update will be tested by network operators and Moto, then submitted to Google for approvals. From there, existing stock can be reflashed to M2, else ship with M1 with a OTA upgrade.


Sorry, this is not an update, it's a completely new handset.  The keyboard has been changed, the CPU is faster, the camera is different and it runs a new newer version of Android.

Motorola haven't even confirmed if the original Milestone (the one Telecom is releasing) will be updated to Android 2.2



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  Reply # 375921 2-Sep-2010 18:49
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digitaldivide:
aim: Probably largely parts related. I don't think anyone was prepared for the explosion in smart phone sales seen because of the work of Android and iOS3/4.


The stock already exists and their work order allotment allocated to TNZ.


True if your talking about the first gen Milestone - apparently they are sitting in Telecom stores, they are just not allowed to sell them until the current issue with txt-ing is fixed.

The Milestone 2 is not available to purchase yet, and I would be REALLY surprised to see it here in anything other than a parallel import store.

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  Reply # 375923 2-Sep-2010 18:54
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timbosan:
digitaldivide: The update will be tested by network operators and Moto, then submitted to Google for approvals. From there, existing stock can be reflashed to M2, else ship with M1 with a OTA upgrade.


Sorry, this is not an update, it's a completely new handset.? The keyboard has been changed, the CPU is faster, the camera is different and it runs a new newer version of Android.

Motorola haven't even confirmed if the original Milestone (the one Telecom is releasing) will be updated to Android 2.2


Motorola published last week the schedule and Asia-Pacific gets 2.2 in Q1 2011.





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 True if your talking about the first gen Milestone - apparently they are sitting in Telecom stores, they are just not allowed to sell them until the current issue with txt-ing is fixed.


What is the txting issue that they are having? Does this affect other Androids or only Motorola?



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  Reply # 375934 2-Sep-2010 19:07
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Motorola published last week the schedule and Asia-Pacific gets 2.2 in Q1 2011.



Fantastic!  When I looked a week or so ago, the status was "Confirming if we will bother rolling out 2.2 to the rest of the world", or words to that effect ;-)

Do yo mean this page?

https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades



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  Reply # 375935 2-Sep-2010 19:10
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timmyh:
 True if your talking about the first gen Milestone - apparently they are sitting in Telecom stores, they are just not allowed to sell them until the current issue with txt-ing is fixed.


What is the txting issue that they are having? Does this affect other Androids or only Motorola?


As far as I know (there are no 'official' details I have seen) there are problems with txt's received from certain Nokia phones.  Read this for more info from an ex Gen-i staff member:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=313165506

The SE X10i and the Mini Pro have both been released and are available to buy, so I would guess it's not a core Android problem.

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timbosan:
timmyh:
 True if your talking about the first gen Milestone - apparently they are sitting in Telecom stores, they are just not allowed to sell them until the current issue with txt-ing is fixed.


What is the txting issue that they are having? Does this affect other Androids or only Motorola?


As far as I know (there are no 'official' details I have seen) there are problems with txt's received from certain Nokia phones.  Read this for more info from an ex Gen-i staff member:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=313165506

The SE X10i and the Mini Pro have both been released and are available to buy, so I would guess it's not a core Android problem.

Interesting, I've been using this over 10 months and never unable to reply texts, and there are a few friends is using Nokia.

The only bug I found with texting is you won't be able to send Chinese(might involve other languages too) to people on a different network, e.g, VF -> 2Degrees. This might be Android's problem or network's problem. Since when back in China I talked to China Mobile and they monitored my texting, then they said there were some compatibility issue with the 3G network and they had fixed it. Then I was able to texting Chinese to different network. But when I back to NZ the same thing happened again. I've tried VF, 2Degrees, Telecom SIM Cards to send Chinese to my friend and all they got is blank message(On Sony-Ericsson Moblie sometimes you can get random numbers). Anyway, VF's txt2000 is only VF to VF so I don't bother spend a few dollar to call 777 complain about this.



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  Reply # 376127 3-Sep-2010 09:35
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'Hibino' - the Milestone I was refering to with the TXT problems is the Telecom version (i.e. the 850Mhz one, like the Telstra version from Ausi).

AFAIK there are no problems with the Vodafone ones.  It would be interested to get more information from you though about the problems you had with a XT SIM, specifically the 'blank' txt message problems.  Do you mean there was nothing in the text?

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  Reply # 376134 3-Sep-2010 09:45
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I thought Telecom's Milestone will be nearly same as other ones, maybe just few difference with the software loaded and the baseband. I guess Telecom's hardware is same as others since according to http://developer.motorola.com/products/milestone/ milestone originally supports 850Mhz(My one is the HK version and works well on Telecom's 3G network)

And yes, if I sending Chinese to different network, the other end just receive blank message, totally blank with nothing in it. English is fine though :(

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  Reply # 376171 3-Sep-2010 10:46
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timbosan:
digitaldivide: The update will be tested by network operators and Moto, then submitted to Google for approvals. From there, existing stock can be reflashed to M2, else ship with M1 with a OTA upgrade.


Sorry, this is not an update, it's a completely new handset.  The keyboard has been changed, the CPU is faster, the camera is different and it runs a new newer version of Android.

Motorola haven't even confirmed if the original Milestone (the one Telecom is releasing) will be updated to Android 2.2


IIRC correctly, there is a version of CyanogenMod 6.0 (Froyo) for the Droid...which may also be useful on the Milestone.

I;d need to check that.....but the CM ROMs have been ported to the Moto phones fairly quickly whether by the CM team directly or down-stream devs.




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