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# 78650 5-Mar-2011 08:31
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Ok, so until February anyone daring to say Android had a fragmentation problem had to fight two fronts: Google and some tech users of the platform.

And now Google releases a library called "Fragment" to solve something that doesn't exist.

Sorry, folks, but only confirms what some of us have been saying for the last six to nine months.

Yes, there is a problem. And it's not going away unless some work is done. The main problem is UI, but there are much more to be done under the hood.



 




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  # 445724 5-Mar-2011 09:15
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Heh. Nice try :-)




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  # 445789 5-Mar-2011 14:23
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Hi Mauricio,

I'll bite! :)

Out of curiosity, in which cases would you use the fragment library? I believe I know when I would, but I'm curious to know when you would.

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  # 445800 5-Mar-2011 15:25
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My whole point is not about using the library - but some people trying to be more royalist than the king. In this case the king (Google) conceded there are situations where old systems aren't included in the whole ecosystem, and fragmentation occurs.





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  # 445801 5-Mar-2011 15:28
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That's because google copped out and didn't force hardware makes to support or even ship with the newest versions! (Or include a built in update mechanism that the carriers/oems couldn't/weren't allowed to turn off!)

But yes, fail google.

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  # 445805 5-Mar-2011 15:43
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Hang on - I thought Fragment was a class used to be able to show more details in one Activity where there is screen space?

From the link:
"A Fragment is a self-contained component with its own UI and lifecycle; it can be-reused in different parts of an application’s user interface depending on the desired UI flow for a particular device or screen."

I actually think they named it like that as a gag - for those... well you know who.

I guess you could say that about adding a compass or something to a device which isn't anticipated in an earlier API.

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  # 445808 5-Mar-2011 16:04
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It seems ridiculous for anyone to say there aren't different API versions in the market...

http://developer.android.com/intl/zh-TW/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html



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  # 445813 5-Mar-2011 16:25
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The Fragment is for those cases where an application needs to target multiple devices with varying screen sizes and orientations.





 
 
 
 


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I guess I think of the Fragment as primarily for use with larger screen size (tablet) where you have the space to show details of a selection (say from a list). I noticed this kind of layout on the Galaxy Tab in the odd native application.

What about the Action Bar though? :)

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  # 445941 6-Mar-2011 10:27
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n4: Heh. Nice try :-)


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  # 445945 6-Mar-2011 10:34
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Android is definitely fragmented now. I can run it on my phone or a tablet or a tablet/netbook or even my old Acer laptop. 

I can run it on almost anything........

But not every app will run everywhere.....only about 95%+.

...Unless I was silly enough to buy a new device running Android v1.5. That would be like buying an iPhone 1st Gen and complaining it won't run iOS4.....An example of Apple fragmentation, I suppose. :-)  



 




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