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Topic # 98587 2-Mar-2012 10:06
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I tried k9 mail but doesnt work.
I tried native email app but it says remote server wants permission to wipe my phone, control every facet of my phone and I said no! So then the server said security error

What the?...


With my iPad I just did one touch and all the email showed up. Do I need to buy an iPhone to check my work email 




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  Reply # 589233 2-Mar-2012 10:15
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The defauly Calendar/E-mail client that came on my LG does the job nicely.

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  Reply # 589237 2-Mar-2012 10:19
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in exchange 2010 there are setting that the administrator can set, like remote wipe, if you do not agree with these T&C, then one of the option the exchange server can do is block your access to the company mail. Most company have it turn on, so they can wipe a lost phone with the company data on it, and you will most like have in your contract / company policy that if you want access to company mail on your phone, you have to give the administrators the right to wipe your phone.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 589238 2-Mar-2012 10:19
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Did it ask for permission to wipe your phone etc?




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  Reply # 589239 2-Mar-2012 10:27
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bagheera: in exchange 2010 there are setting that the administrator can set, like remote wipe, if you do not agree with these T&C, then one of the option the exchange server can do is block your access to the company mail. Most company have it turn on, so they can wipe a lost phone with the company data on it, and you will most like have in your contract / company policy that if you want access to company mail on your phone, you have to give the administrators the right to wipe your phone.


I see ... But my iPad never asked me for these things.

I certainly will not let the work csr have access to any part of my galaxy 




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  Reply # 589241 2-Mar-2012 10:30
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joker97:
bagheera: in exchange 2010 there are setting that the administrator can set, like remote wipe, if you do not agree with these T&C, then one of the option the exchange server can do is block your access to the company mail. Most company have it turn on, so they can wipe a lost phone with the company data on it, and you will most like have in your contract / company policy that if you want access to company mail on your phone, you have to give the administrators the right to wipe your phone.


I see ... But my iPad never asked me for these things.

I certainly will not let the work csr have access to any part of my galaxy 


there can be different polices for ios and android setup in exchange - most likely they stuff up the ios one and will fix it when they notice. (normal done so you can have pattern password for android)

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  Reply # 589249 2-Mar-2012 10:38
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also checking our setup - the ios does not warn you about the remote wipe but it is there, and can be wipe.

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  Reply # 589254 2-Mar-2012 10:44
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correct, Android adds that extra step to 'warn' you but ios auto-accept that request







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  Reply # 589258 2-Mar-2012 10:46
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bagheera: also checking our setup - the ios does not warn you about the remote wipe but it is there, and can be wipe.


Serious? So iOS does not warn you of anything then? Every and any app could take over my pad! Without me knowing?

So is it safe for me to accept the 30 things they want to control on my galaxy phone then?




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  Reply # 589270 2-Mar-2012 11:07
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joker97:
bagheera: also checking our setup - the ios does not warn you about the remote wipe but it is there, and can be wipe.


Serious? So iOS does not warn you of anything then? Every and any app could take over my pad! Without me knowing?

So is it safe for me to accept the 30 things they want to control on my galaxy phone then?


by accepting it, you letting your exchange admin the right to wipe device - the other stuff that can be done is force a password, force a password change after x days, require encryption on device & storage, and another biggie, after x failed password wipe device. Also the exchange admin can restrict access to camera, wifi, infrared, internet sharing, remote desktop, bluetooth, even whitelist /blacklist apps - it all comes down to what policy the admin setup.

if they change the setting later and you do not like, then you can remove the exchange setup and get control of device back, but as long as you sync to exchange and you accept the right on android or ios just does it for you, then it come down to the company policy on remote devices and what been setup.

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  Reply # 589272 2-Mar-2012 11:11
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Look this way: it their email service. If you want access with your device, you have to follow the rules. If not, then you don't have access.

The rules are there for a reason. It's their business. It won't wipe your device: it will allow an administrator to remotely wipe it on request - for example you lose your smartphone, you can yourself go to Outlook Web Access and go to the option to remotely lock or erase the handset. Or you can call your company's help desk and ask them to do it if you don't have OWA access at the moment.

It's called security. If you don't agree, don't use it to access your company's system.





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  Reply # 589278 2-Mar-2012 11:17
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also why our company has remote device access turn off by default, anyone can ask for it and get it, but you need to agree to security requirements to get it enable and there a form you signed saying you know that we can wipe it etc even if it your person phone.

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  Reply # 589284 2-Mar-2012 11:19
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That's the big thing about BYOD (Bring Your Own Device): management. IT was reluctant to have BYOD because of management. Now there are tools and people don't want it. As I said, if you MUST HAVE access to your company email and don't want them to manage your device for security purposes then ask the company to provide their device to you - and you carry two. Your choice.




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  Reply # 589320 2-Mar-2012 11:53
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joker97:
bagheera: also checking our setup - the ios does not warn you about the remote wipe but it is there, and can be wipe.


Serious? So iOS does not warn you of anything then? Every and any app could take over my pad! Without me knowing?

So is it safe for me to accept the 30 things they want to control on my galaxy phone then?


You're warned when you set it up as it'll ask to install a certificate. Standard IT policy here, no cert, no Exchange access.

We don't want missing devices with confidential data on them laying around, so if one goes AWOL, we kill-pill them. If they're found again, then just resync your data and off you go.

If you don't agree to the policies, then don't use it. The only alternatives would be a 3rd-party gateway app such as "Good for Enterprise" which requires back-end support. Or to access OWA via the web browser.





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  Reply # 589656 3-Mar-2012 00:43
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Does it matter if they can wipe your device? If you using android won't all your important stuff (Contacts, email, photos, videos, appointments, app purchases, wifi passwords etc) be stored on the cloud with your google account?

Retriving your data is a 2 step process

1. Phone on
2. login with user@gmail.com



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  Reply # 589671 3-Mar-2012 07:56
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1) how do you store your photos on cloud?

2) well now I know thatevery company requests access to the bowels of your phone thaIsis good to know ... It appears that I have control over device from my web access and can cut control any time.

 




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