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#1776417 5-May-2017 16:14

MikeB4:
Talkiet:

I love how everyone is just assuming that the new pricing is unreasonably high. I highly doubt any of us here have any basis in fact for that opinion.

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Sky basic $49 plus Mysky $15 plus Sport $29.90 = $93.90 per month. Increase just one service, Sport from $59 to $99 per month right before a hugely high demand time seem like pricing for the hell of it. It all looks very unreasonable, however granted we do not know their cost structure

but if it has gone up that much then surely Sport on a Sky sub should also have gone up.

I pay $50 per month for Basic, MySky, HD + Sport. So $15 per week. So it's not $90-$100 for everyone. Lots of other people have signed up to the $50 deal on here too.

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#1776419 5-May-2017 16:17

whats the problem , Sky tried it , the found all it did was stop people taking up Sky as a monthly subscription and they were losing money . if you still want to watch sport take out a subscription or find other ways to watch it, and you can all say i hope sky goes under but if it does you can kiss any live sport goodbye in NZ , Sky is the only company that can afford bidding for the popular sports for the money that the sports want and we are talking big money, in fact it wouldnt matter because Professional Rugby would cease to exist in NZ without Sky's money..

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1776420 5-May-2017 16:20

Bobdn:
Free to Air would mean every man woman and child paying for "free" sports broadcasting whether they watch it or not, through taxation. Hardly free or fair.

I don't understand this at all. You're saying the govt would introduce some kind of tax to fund sport on television? How is this going to work?

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#1776428 5-May-2017 16:41

Journeyman:

Bobdn:
Free to Air would mean every man woman and child paying for "free" sports broadcasting whether they watch it or not, through taxation. Hardly free or fair.

I don't understand this at all. You're saying the govt would introduce some kind of tax to fund sport on television? How is this going to work?

If people want FTA sport this is the only way it could work. While the numbers are not public it's safe to say Sky probably pay the rugby union somewhere in the vicinity of $40 million per year just for rugby.

While Sky's model may be broken, the professional sport model is pay tv providers having to pay continually larger sums of money is also broken.

DarkCypher

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#1776443 5-May-2017 17:18

Did anyone else currently paying for the monthly option get this at the end of the email?

As you’re currently a recurring month pass customer, as long as you stay on this plan without cancelling your recurring pass, you’ll only pay $55.99* per month until February 2018.

if that isn't a misprint I'm okay with that.

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#1776466 5-May-2017 17:56

vexxxboy:

... and you can all say i hope sky goes under but if it does you can kiss any live sport goodbye in NZ , Sky is the only company that can afford bidding for the popular sports for the money that the sports want and we are talking big money, in fact it wouldnt matter because Professional Rugby would cease to exist in NZ without Sky's money..

With due respect, rubbish. Rugby will always be with us, with or without Sky.

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

To be honest, I'm flabbergasted with Sky's announcement today - they've exceeded all expectations by proving themselves an even greater anachronistic-money-grubbing-consumer-hating monopoly than even I previously gave them credit for!

Adapt or die. I'm predicting die (and soon, please).

mattwnz

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#1776468 5-May-2017 17:59

sbiddle:

Journeyman:

Bobdn:
Free to Air would mean every man woman and child paying for "free" sports broadcasting whether they watch it or not, through taxation. Hardly free or fair.

I don't understand this at all. You're saying the govt would introduce some kind of tax to fund sport on television? How is this going to work?

If people want FTA sport this is the only way it could work. While the numbers are not public it's safe to say Sky probably pay the rugby union somewhere in the vicinity of $40 million per year just for rugby.

While Sky's model may be broken, the professional sport model is pay tv providers having to pay continually larger sums of money is also broken.

I think the only way it would work is if a law was introduced that required nationally significant sports to be FTA live. Otherwise the government may try to get Maori TV or RNZ to run it, and have to compete with other providers to get the content, which potentially bids up the price. Obviously 50 million across a 5 million population is less than $1 a month. Even 100 million dollars for content is $2 a month. So is significantly less than what people are currently playing. Plus you also have advertising that can help to pay for it.

The otherway is for them to contract Sky, or another provider to provide the FTA service, on say a HD version of prime, or TVNZ, and that also allows them to upsell.

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#1776473 5-May-2017 18:04

dafman:

With due respect, rubbish. Rugby will always be with us, with or without Sky.

Is interest as strong as it was though? You don't seem to get as many people to the games these days. Potentially FTA broadcasting could save the rate and taxpayers billions in not having to build huge stadiums. Auckland looks like they want a new one, even though the tax payer spent hundreds of millions rebuilding and upgrading Eden park for the World Cup not that long ago, and that was supposed to be used for decades. But they again seem to be wanting a new waterfront stadium for some reason. Waterfront stadiums though aren't that great, as they block views. Personally I think they should have upgraded North Harbour.

vexxxboy

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#1776476 5-May-2017 18:13

dafman:

vexxxboy:

... and you can all say i hope sky goes under but if it does you can kiss any live sport goodbye in NZ , Sky is the only company that can afford bidding for the popular sports for the money that the sports want and we are talking big money, in fact it wouldnt matter because Professional Rugby would cease to exist in NZ without Sky's money..

With due respect, rubbish. Rugby will always be with us, with or without Sky.

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

To be honest, I'm flabbergasted with Sky's announcement today - they've exceeded all expectations by proving themselves an even greater anachronistic-money-grubbing-consumer-hating monopoly than even I previously gave them credit for!

Adapt or die. I'm predicting die (and soon, please).

Rugby will survive but it will go back to what it was , which means mainly an amateur sport and our best athletes will head straight to the uk and france to play .

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1776481 5-May-2017 18:28

Yes, although mine was about to expire (did not have it on auto rollover), and now I cant renew as the monthly is no longer being sold.

Goodbye Sky

DarkCypher: Did anyone else currently paying for the monthly option get this at the end of the email?

As you’re currently a recurring month pass customer, as long as you stay on this plan without cancelling your recurring pass, you’ll only pay $55.99* per month until February 2018.

if that isn't a misprint I'm okay with that.

Bobdn

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#1776499 5-May-2017 18:40

dafman:

vexxxboy:

... and you can all say i hope sky goes under but if it does you can kiss any live sport goodbye in NZ , Sky is the only company that can afford bidding for the popular sports for the money that the sports want and we are talking big money, in fact it wouldnt matter because Professional Rugby would cease to exist in NZ without Sky's money..

With due respect, rubbish. Rugby will always be with us, with or without Sky.

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

To be honest, I'm flabbergasted with Sky's announcement today - they've exceeded all expectations by proving themselves an even greater anachronistic-money-grubbing-consumer-hating monopoly than even I previously gave them credit for!

Adapt or die. I'm predicting die (and soon, please).

Why would you wish that on a NZ company? It employs a lot of people (who pay taxes) and it also pays taxes to the NZ Government. It has made a huge contribution to Sport in NZ. Do you remember how sport used to be covered? Better to have Sky here than not.

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#1776505 5-May-2017 18:55

dafman:

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

I assume by "adapt" you mean that pretty much the top 50 rugby players in NZ incl all the All Blacks will leave NZ and move to France where they will get paid more because pay tv providers over there are willing to pay big $$ for sports content?

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#1776507 5-May-2017 18:57

sbiddle:

dafman:

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

I assume by "adapt" you mean that pretty much the top 50 rugby players in NZ incl all the All Blacks will leave NZ and move to France where they will get paid more because pay tv providers over there are willing to pay big $$ for sports content?

Maybe the govt could regulate professional rugby to keep the players here, where they belong!

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SheriffNZ

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#1776510 5-May-2017 19:06

Talkiet:
sbiddle:

dafman:

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

I assume by "adapt" you mean that pretty much the top 50 rugby players in NZ incl all the All Blacks will leave NZ and move to France where they will get paid more because pay tv providers over there are willing to pay big $$ for sports content?

Maybe the govt could regulate professional rugby to keep the players here, where they belong!

N.

Sounds a lot like slavery to me...

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#1776512 5-May-2017 19:10

Talkiet:

sbiddle:

dafman:

The NZ sports environment will adapt to whatever the post-Sky environment turns out to be.

I assume by "adapt" you mean that pretty much the top 50 rugby players in NZ incl all the All Blacks will leave NZ and move to France where they will get paid more because pay tv providers over there are willing to pay big $$ for sports content?

Maybe the govt could regulate professional rugby to keep the players here, where they belong!

N.

Hell lets just cancel their passports and hold them at gun point.

Everyone wants things but when it comes to pay the true cost it's "I want it but I don't want to pay and if i have to pay I want to pay what I think it costs".

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