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openmedia
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  #3365037 17-Apr-2025 15:54
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openmedia:

 

Spyware:

 

Freeview NZ technical specs do not specify using H.264 on satellite. Upgrade to HD will be using H.265, page 61, 6.11.3.

 

https://freeviewnz.tv/Media/o4pp5qwe/freeview-specification-2022-v15.pdf

 

 

A lot of the existing older Satellite decoders can't support H265, but pretty much any DVB-S2 device will support H264. It would be great to see a switch to HEVC.

 

 

Ok a bit of additional testing and it appears the FTA channels on the Sky transponders are using H264, whist the Freeview only transponders are still MPEG2.

 

Specifically on 12530H all of the following channels are transmitting using Video 720x576 25fps H264 16:9 anamorphic / Audio 2 channel MPEG2 

 

  • Sky Open - note multiple audio streams + subtitles.
  • eden +1
  • Bravo PLUS1
  • Al Jazeera

Surprised to see the audio is still MPEG2 rather than AAC.





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  #3365044 17-Apr-2025 16:50
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CYaBro:

 

Lyngsat has been updated now.

 

https://www.lyngsat.com/Koreasat-6.html

 

 

 

A PB - reception went off at 15.20 today😒


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  #3365077 17-Apr-2025 18:32
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fishb8:

 

A PB - reception went off at 15.20 today😒

 

 

 

 

Sorry I don't follow - can you explain.





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  #3365079 17-Apr-2025 18:39
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openmedia:

 

Sorry I don't follow - can you explain.

 

 

APB = All Points Bulletin





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  #3365080 17-Apr-2025 18:39
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fishb8:

 

A PB - reception went off at 15.20 today😒

 

 

Coro St is on TVNZ+.





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  #3365082 17-Apr-2025 19:11
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openmedia:

 

Ok a bit of additional testing and it appears the FTA channels on the Sky transponders are using H264, whist the Freeview only transponders are still MPEG2.

 

Specifically on 12530H all of the following channels are transmitting using Video 720x576 25fps H264 16:9 anamorphic / Audio 2 channel MPEG2 

 

  • Sky Open - note multiple audio streams + subtitles.
  • eden +1
  • Bravo PLUS1
  • Al Jazeera

Surprised to see the audio is still MPEG2 rather than AAC.

 

 

This is as announced last year when they were testing H264. https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=318137 


 
 
 

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  #3365095 17-Apr-2025 21:11
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fishb8:

 

Reception stopped about 18.45 last night and restarted this moning just after 09.00

 

 

Location? is this one box hooked up or using a splitter?

 

 


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  #3365103 17-Apr-2025 22:07
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openmedia:

 

Ok a bit of additional testing and it appears the FTA channels on the Sky transponders are using H264, whist the Freeview only transponders are still MPEG2.

 

Specifically on 12530H all of the following channels are transmitting using Video 720x576 25fps H264 16:9 anamorphic / Audio 2 channel MPEG2 

 

  • Sky Open - note multiple audio streams + subtitles.
  • eden +1
  • Bravo PLUS1
  • Al Jazeera

Surprised to see the audio is still MPEG2 rather than AAC.

 

 

 

 

Yuck! They are still using anamorphic? Not at least full frame 16:9 on the MPEG4 channels?


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  #3365130 18-Apr-2025 09:48
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I just discovered that the AV button on the Sky black box remote is a shortcut to the signal strength/quality screen. Has that always been the case? I don't think that I've ever even pressed that button before.


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  #3365337 18-Apr-2025 13:30
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My Mum tells me that a few people in her area have had to replace their Freeview box after the satellite switchover. Does that sound right? Surely a new satellite wouldn't necessitate a replacement box?

 

I think she got hers in 2015, which isn't that long ago, is it? She was saying that apparently Noel Leeming in Ashburton has run out of new Freeview satellite decoders.


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  #3365338 18-Apr-2025 13:36
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quickymart:

 

My Mum tells me that a few people in her area have had to replace their Freeview box after the satellite switchover. Does that sound right? Surely a new satellite wouldn't necessitate a replacement box?

 

 

Modulation changed from DVB-S to DVB-S2 so it's possible. What is the make and model number of decoder?? Ashburton is also in range of Sugarloaf for terrestrial.





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  #3365339 18-Apr-2025 13:45
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I can't comment on the Ashburton thing as it's second-hand information but I agree with you - I know the Christchurch FM stations used to be received loud and clear in Ashburton.

 

Anyway, she sent me a pic of her current decoder, looks like it's a Freeview Dish TV S7070R box.

 

If she does end up needing to replace it, will she need to do this again in 2 years when the satellite changes again? What a pain.

 

Edit: one of these: https://shop.cashconverters.co.nz/Listing/Details/44976780/TVVCR

 

 


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  #3365341 18-Apr-2025 13:50
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Suggestion on Freeview forum https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=318137&page_no=4 is that S7070r needs to be replaced.

 

P.S. Modern decoders support DVB-S2 and modern codecs, e.g., H.264 and H.265, so no she won't need to upgrade again.

 

P.S. Checking specs of S7070r it is only DVB-S.





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  #3365342 18-Apr-2025 13:51
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quickymart:

 

My Mum tells me that a few people in her area have had to replace their Freeview box after the satellite switchover. Does that sound right? Surely a new satellite wouldn't necessitate a replacement box?

 

I think she got hers in 2015, which isn't that long ago, is it? She was saying that apparently Noel Leeming in Ashburton has run out of new Freeview satellite decoders.

 

 

i would not be surprised. my old freeveiw box is about that age and its now obsolete. i havn't used it for years because of i got smart tv with sat built in.


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  #3365346 18-Apr-2025 14:04
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quickymart:

 

I can't comment on the Ashburton thing as it's second-hand information but I agree with you - I know the Christchurch FM stations used to be received loud and clear in Ashburton.

 

Anyway, she sent me a pic of her current decoder, looks like it's a Freeview Dish TV S7070R box.

 

If she does end up needing to replace it, will she need to do this again in 2 years when the satellite changes again? What a pain.

 

Edit: one of these: https://shop.cashconverters.co.nz/Listing/Details/44976780/TVVCR

 

 

 

 

Yes that box will need to be replaced, see my post in the thread that Spyware linked to for a suitable replacement.


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