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#318127 18-Dec-2024 15:56

Sky have started moving things to Optus 10 at 156E

currently active are

12287 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12326 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12407 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12687 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK

and they are on dual beam that also covers Australia..Not that they will offer service there.

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#3322087 18-Dec-2024 20:14

SKY NZ on Optus 10 156E
Latest 8.12pm NZ

Dual Beam
12286 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12326 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12406 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12446 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12526 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12606 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
12686 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK

all are dupe broadcasting

Animal Planet
CNN
MTV
Comedy Central
Country TV
ESPN
MTV 80s
Sky Sport Select

confirmed working on 3rd party decoder, with dish manually pointed to 156E

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#3322130 19-Dec-2024 03:13

I got DVBViewer to tune these in using minisatip. I had to adjust minisatip's LNB settings from "-L *:10750-10750-99999" to "-L *:10750-10750-00000" to get it to turn on the 22 kHz tone to select the second throat on my dish that points to 156.0E.

Some of the test channels such as Comedy Central are being broadcast as 1920x1080 and 3-5 Mbit/s. DVBViewer was a bit hit and miss on locking these in - it worked when I first tried, but only sometimes, and then when I tried a few minutes later, it failed. On the current satellite, these are broadcast as 1440x1080 with a 16:9 aspect ratio override. So maybe we will be getting real 1080p after the changeover.

Other channels such as Animal Planet are 720x576 1-3 Mbit/s, and they always locked in.

On 12727 V the Sky Test HD channel (the 888 channel) is 1920x1080 6.2 Mbit/s. It always locked in.

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#3322167 19-Dec-2024 09:00

What is the real world impact to end users of these changes?

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#3322227 19-Dec-2024 09:54

networkn:

What is the real world impact to end users of these changes?

Higher pricing :P

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#3322256 19-Dec-2024 12:19

networkn:

What is the real world impact to end users of these changes?

Provision of Sky services when D2 becomes a death star.

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#3322269 19-Dec-2024 13:07

No increased resolution or picture improvements? No less susceptible to weather?

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#3322308 19-Dec-2024 15:12

There was some talk of increasing the compression in their media releases, I'm assuming if they don't have equivalent capacity on Optus 10.

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#3322410 19-Dec-2024 15:47

They are removing the 4 linear BOX office channel for starters. But thats an obsolete way of delivering that content anyway.

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#3322426 19-Dec-2024 16:42

Early days yet, but a rescan today shows they have removed MTV. However all transponders are showing the same duplicated mux, nothing to worry about

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#3326320 30-Dec-2024 18:31

An update

now loading the following.

SKY NZ on Optus 10 156E
5.16pm NZ 30/12/24
Dual Beam

all nds/irdeto H264 passed through from D2

12286 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1001 v 1008 a 1108 "Sky 5"
sid 1161 v 1001 a 1101,1111,1151,1901 "Sky Sport 1"
sid 1162 v 1003 a 1103,1113,1153,1903 "Sky Sport 2"
sid 1163 v 1002 a 1102 "Sky Movies Premiere"
sid 1245 v 1007 a 1107 "Sky Movies Family"

12326 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1003 v 1007 a 1107 "BBC UkTV"
sid 1011 v 1006 a 1106,1116 "TVNZ Duke"
sid 1164 v 1001 a 1101 "Sky Movies Greats"
sid 1165 v 1003 a 1103,1113 "Three"
sid 1171 v 1002 a 1102,1112 "TVNZ 1"
sid 1172 v 1004 a 1104,1114 "TVNZ 2"
sid 1216 v 1005 a 1105 "Sky Movies Comedy"

12406 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1202 v 1001 a 1101 "Sky Sport 5"
sid 1203 v 1002 a 1102 "Sky Sport 6"
sid 1204 v 1003 a 1103 "Sky Sport Premiere League"
sid 1211 v 1007 a 1107,1147,1157 "Sky Open"
sid 1219 v 1005 a 1105 "Sky Movies Classics"
sid 1221 v 1004 a 1104 "Sky Movies Action"

12446 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1022 v 1003 a 1103 "Living"
sid 1170 v 1005 a 1105 "SoHo"
sid 1174 v 1001 a 1101,1111,1151 "Sky Sport 3"
sid 1181 v 1006 a 1106 "Sky Arena"
sid 1201 v 1002 a 1102,1112,1152 "Sky Sport 4"

12526 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1013 v 1001 a 1101 "Discovery"
sid 1024 v 1007 a 1107 "Nickleodeon"
sid 1049 v 1003 a 1103 "Real Crime"
sid 1059 v 1006 a 1106 "BBC Earth"
sid 1180 v 1002 a 1102 "MTV Hits"
sid 1184 v 1004 a 1104 "Nick Jr"
sid 1217 v 1009 a 1109 "Sky Sport 9"
sid 1242 v 1005 a 1105 "Discovery Turbo"
sid 1246 v 1008 a 1108 "Cbeebies"

12606 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK
sid 1001 v 1008 a 1108 "Sky 5"
sid 1161 v 1001 a 1101,1111,1151 "Sky Sport 1"
sid 1162 v 1003 a 1103,1113,1153 "Sky Sport 2"
sid 1163 v 1002 a 1102 "Sky Movie Premiere"
sid 1245 v 1007 a 1107 "Sky Movies Family"

12686 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK

sid 1014 Vpid 1007 Apid 1107 "Animal Planet"
sid 1015 Vpid 1005 Apid 1105 "CNN"
sid 1042 Vpid 1004 Apid 1104 "Comedy Central"
sid 1098 Vpid 1006 Apid 1106 "Country TV"
sid 1175 Vpid 1001 Apid 1101 "ESPN"
sid 1176 Vpid 1010 Apid 1110 "MTV 80s"
sid 1244 Vpid 1002 Apid 1102 "Sky Sport Select"

No change on this one
12726 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK SKY HD test

all H264 , Irdeto/Videoguard

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#3326664 31-Dec-2024 21:39

added today

12606 V 30000 DVB-S2 Fec 3/4 QPSK

SID: 1017 v 1003 a 1103 Sky News (SkyNZ)
SID: 1026 v 1009 a 1109 BBC World News (SkyNZ)
SID: 1041 v 1004 a 1104 Vibe (SkyNZ)
SID: 1051 v 1005 a 1105 Daystar (SkyNZ)
SID: 1093 v 1006 a 1106 CGTN (SkyNZ)
SID: 1120 a 1171 NZ Chart (NZ Chart - Top 40 Hits)
SID: 1121 a 1172 Pop (Pop - '90s to Today)
SID: 1122 a 1181 Smooth (Smooth - Sounds to Soothe)
SID: 1187 v 1010 a 1110 FACE TV (SkyNZ)
SID: 1207 v 1002 a 1102 Sky Sport 7 (SkyNZ)

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#3327249 3-Jan-2025 12:51

I’m interested to see that vertical alignment (?) is being used on the new satellite rather than horizontal. I thought I saw a while ago that you couldn’t tune a vertical channel if a horizontal channel was being watched. Is that no longer the case or is this just a limitation with the new satellite?

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#3327262 3-Jan-2025 13:38

Polarisation, not alignment. The issue with H/V at the same time comes down to how an LNB (the electronics on the dish) works. The selection of H/V is done by the receiver sending either 14v(V) or 18v(H) to the LNB, so you obviously can't select both at the same time.

The solution is an LNB with more than 1 output (there will be multiple connectors/cables to the LNB) so you can get H on one V on the other.

With multiple satellites, the selection between them is also done with signalling on the same cable, so each cable can carry one polarisation from one satellite at a time. There are some exceptions to this, but not generally seen in NZ.

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#3327345 3-Jan-2025 20:20

Unlike the D series sats The Optus 10 satellite doesnt have a specific NZ only beam, The H pol is being used by Foxtel and some Verticals by the Australian VAST service (similar to NZ's Freeview). Only the Verticals are available for Skys backup and they are on a dual beam. It means Skys stuff will be visable in Australia.. that will cause issues for any FTA content moving there such as Freeview..

Freeview claim they will be on a backup sat and dishes wont need repointing.....

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#3327369 4-Jan-2025 00:14

Apsattv:
Freeview claim they will be on a backup sat and dishes wont need repointing.....

I was reading that and going "how!" when looking at an auto aligning mobile home dish tonight.

Turns out a major retailer of the dishes in NZ went into liquidation. They pre set them up and branded then shipped them out the door. So when you turn it on. It does a pre set circular search for 160E.(D1/2). And there's basically an on and off switch. With the ability to change the alignments software disabled.

So they'll all be fun come april!

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