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#1889122 25-Oct-2017 08:52

mattwnz:

old3eyes:
cafeg:

I was just checking the info stats on Tivo.

It says guide is cached until 31st October which is the day it stops.

I thought we were going to get about 2 weeks after october 31 with the guide ?

I thought the same thing.

I haven't checked mine yet. I will have to force an update on the last day to make sure I get the final updates.

I check mine last nite and the EPG ends at Oct 31. Beyond there it just says info not available.

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Old3eyes

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#1889125 25-Oct-2017 08:57

There is a lot of info on these 2 forums about it.

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=114&topicid=222696&page_no=6

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2613609&p=24

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#1889225 25-Oct-2017 11:49

Symondo:

Hi All, New here but have read this forum over time to see what resolves we have for the tivo EPG. Ive had and been involved with tivo since Beta testing. Currently still have three units. With family and friends also based on my historical recommendations. If someone could direct me to eprom and sockets i'm semi keen to try doing a swap as I have a fairly good soldering/hot air station with a reasonable amount of experience. Willing to sacrifice one of my units for practice. Although I would prefer not to get involved in the chip programming itself. Thanks in advance.

Pinging @Spong

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#1889307 25-Oct-2017 14:20

Symondo:

Hi All, New here but have read this forum over time to see what resolves we have for the tivo EPG. Ive had and been involved with tivo since Beta testing. Currently still have three units. With family and friends also based on my historical recommendations. If someone could direct me to eprom and sockets i'm semi keen to try doing a swap as I have a fairly good soldering/hot air station with a reasonable amount of experience. Willing to sacrifice one of my units for practice. Although I would prefer not to get involved in the chip programming itself. Thanks in advance.

It's been mentioned here on Geekzone several times already, that myself and another person in Christchurch have the already programmed PROMs and sockets. PM me for details. The software patch is nearing completion but is not available for general release just yet.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1889331 25-Oct-2017 15:05

old3eyes:

I check mine last nite and the EPG ends at Oct 31. Beyond there it just says info not available.

I just did a manual network connection and my Tivo guide is fully populated until 7th November, which would be around 2x weeks?

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1889336 25-Oct-2017 15:09

Spong:

old3eyes:

I check mine last nite and the EPG ends at Oct 31. Beyond there it just says info not available.

I just did a manual network connection and my Tivo guide is fully populated until 7th November, which would be around 2x weeks?

Thanx . Will do an manual re-sync tonite

Regards,

Old3eyes

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#1889368 25-Oct-2017 15:59

old3eyes:

Spong:

old3eyes:

I check mine last nite and the EPG ends at Oct 31. Beyond there it just says info not available.

I just did a manual network connection and my Tivo guide is fully populated until 7th November, which would be around 2x weeks?

Thanx . Will do an manual re-sync tonite

Just did it and it's Nov 07. Wonder if there will be updates as Oct 31 comes closer. In theory it should go out to around Nov 14..

Regards,

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#1889428 25-Oct-2017 17:05

Spong:

Symondo:

Hi All, New here but have read this forum over time to see what resolves we have for the tivo EPG. Ive had and been involved with tivo since Beta testing. Currently still have three units. With family and friends also based on my historical recommendations. If someone could direct me to eprom and sockets i'm semi keen to try doing a swap as I have a fairly good soldering/hot air station with a reasonable amount of experience. Willing to sacrifice one of my units for practice. Although I would prefer not to get involved in the chip programming itself. Thanks in advance.

It's been mentioned here on Geekzone several times already, that myself and another person in Christchurch have the already programmed PROMs and sockets. PM me for details. The software patch is nearing completion but is not available for general release just yet.

Thanks Spong, I've PM'd

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#1893457 1-Nov-2017 09:25

Just checked my TiVo this morning and the EPG sync still works and I see that the EPG goes to midnite on the 14th except for TVSN that seems to go on for days afterwards. Guess i'll get another two weeks before I have to runup the old Dish DVR and see it it still works..

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#1893764 1-Nov-2017 18:05

The Community Developed Software to enable your Tivo to keep running with an EPG has now been released to the Public.

Please do your best to connect your Tivo using the Network setting if you haven't recently, because it's advantageous for your Tivo to be running the latest 11.3b10.2017-1506-01-Z-663 software before installing this patch. You can check the System Information menu item to see which software your Tivo is running. Despite the official mothership being "closed" we suspect this software update may still be coming down, and if your Tivo has been connected over the last week, it should have received it automatically already.

The current version of the community software is ver 0.6. Note: You must have had your PROM chip replaced with a new modified one before you can use this software/patch.

Please take the time to read TivoInstaller.pdf in detail before starting. There are links in there for some files you'll need.

Here is the document. http://hd.oztivo.net/twiki/pub/S3FAQ/S3HowToKeepUsingTiVo/TivoInstaller_0.6.pdf

The actual installer files you'll extract onto the USB drive created above are here: http://hd.oztivo.net/twiki/pub/S3FAQ/S3HowToKeepUsingTiVo/tivo_installer_0.6.zip

As of today, you should have around 2 weeks of EPG data from your Tivo's last trip to the official mothership, there's no need to rush into this. The new EPG data may not be perfect and will be a work in progress with some help from the community. Scraping data from certain websites would have been nicer, but lawyers tend to leap out with cease and desist notices when this happens. From memory Sky used to be like this.

When using the Season Pass feature with new guide data, you may need to use the default option of "Repeats and First-Run" rather than "First Run Only". Check the ToDo list to see if your choices will be recorded. You will almost certainly need to re-create your season passes after existing "official" EPG data is used up - around 14th November at present. You may also need to flush your current EPG data using the "Restart or Reset System"menu, then choose the option to "Clear program information and To Do list" then reconnect via the Network setting, to download new EPG data from the new OzTivo mothership.

The new software/patch should not harm your existing recordings. It does little more than patch the existing Tivo app on the hard disk and add some useful utilities. One new feature is the 30 second forward skip, which has been disabled until now.

Here is the OzTivo site where this can be found: http://hd.oztivo.net/twiki/bin/view/S3FAQ/S3HowToKeepUsingTiVo

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1893769 1-Nov-2017 18:20

Yay! Thanks to all who have put in hard work to make this happen! Will hopefully be able to test this weekend.

Sony

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#1893773 1-Nov-2017 18:41

A little more info about the newly released Mod Software/patch

Big thanks go out to all the people working behind the scenes and testing on this. There has been a lot of activity from a lot of hard working people to get it to this stage.

Note you need to have the PROM chip installed for this to work. If you apply these mods to a non chipped TiVo it will not boot and you will have to restore from a backup.

The software mod has been pretty bulletproof to date and does a number of sanity checks before applying the update but to be safe you probably should make a backup with WinMFS in the rare chance that something goes wrong.

There are plenty of guides on the net for using it like this one for example: http://www.cdata.com.au/kb/a285/how-to-upgrade-your-tivo-hd-with-winmfs.aspx

Season Passes
You will need to redo all of your season passes. There is no way to migrate them across to the new OzTiVo guide data.

Ongoing Support
The OzTiVo forums will be revived soon for more targeted support so a link to that will be coming soon.

Patience
As mentioned previously this will be a work in progress from a number of unpaid volunteers so please be patient. This is a community effort and the people working on this behind the scenes are doing this out of the desire to keep the TiVo in Australia & NZ alive. Be respectful of them and if things don't look perfect or get fixed immediately know that they will be dealt with in time. Agro directed at those giving up their free time to help will only make them want to help less.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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#1895212 4-Nov-2017 14:26

That's awesome work! Well done to all involved!

Is there anyone in Auckland who is doing the PROM chip installations?

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#1895326 4-Nov-2017 20:28

What happened with that guy who was banging on about reckoning he could claim something under the CGA due to the Tivo service being discontinued?

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#1895349 4-Nov-2017 22:03

thecrane:

That's awesome work! Well done to all involved!

Is there anyone in Auckland who is doing the PROM chip installations?

I'm in Auckland and doing PROM chip changes as well as supplying the PROM chips and sockets. However the enormous success and popularity of this project means that programmed PROM chips are like hens teeth for a while. Currently I have 50x more on their way that could be 2x weeks away, and also hoping I will have some sooner from another source. PM me for more details.

Tivo upgrades to operate with the new OzTivo EPG, support and service. Over 400 performed here so far. See: www.hillcrest.net.nz

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