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Chrisbexsta

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#112285 3-Dec-2012 20:55

One thing PVR I use my TiVo all the time because of that one feature and remote scheduling is awesome but I am hopin this is not going to be the death of TiVo for NZ now since the tvnz and sky partnership has spat out this box thing

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#726470 3-Dec-2012 21:29

IMO Igloo will fail, you can not record on the device, you can only pause live tv for four hours.
It will not last if they do old school things like that.

You could connect it up to your DVD recoder but none I saw could change the channel on another device.

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#726477 3-Dec-2012 21:42

Yeah I read the specs on the new box and I can't believe that they don't include a hard drive and make it record. If they are smart this should be the mark one version and they will come up with better boxes that catches up with the rest of the world.

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Chrisbexsta

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#726490 3-Dec-2012 21:47

Yeah then they have alot of pissed off customers hence why I'm waiting for the next iPhone lol

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#726497 3-Dec-2012 22:03

or atleast chuck in a usb stick so it comes with some level of recording/live pause out of the box..

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#726507 3-Dec-2012 22:13

SATTV: IMO Igloo will fail, you can not record on the device, you can only pause live tv for four hours.
It will not last if they do old school things like that.

You could connect it up to your DVD recoder but none I saw could change the channel on another device.

I don't think it will fail, because unlike tivos, these are being sold by big box retailers along with tv's. You may even get them giving them away with a new tv, as sky will make their money on people subscribing. I think there is a place in the market for them, but it is a niche one.

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#726513 3-Dec-2012 22:24

I can plug a hdd in my tv and record tv that way my tv is smarter then igloo lol

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#726530 3-Dec-2012 23:04

Chrisbexsta: I can plug a hdd in my tv and record tv that way my tv is smarter then igloo lol

You are missing the point of what igloo is - it's no more a PVR solution than your washing machine is - and not intended to be.

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#726534 3-Dec-2012 23:12

My hope for Igloo is that most punters choose it for build quality.
A lot of people seem to be buying sub-par, throw away units that. Fingers crossed that the Pace made Igloo boxes are built well and that the software is glitch free.
Sure the launch has been delayed and the content is expensive...
But for the money, it's not out of reach as a Freeview box. If they bring out a software update that allows recording to an encrypted USB stick - I think it could go okay.

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#726536 3-Dec-2012 23:16

Dunnersfella: My hope for Igloo is that most punters choose it for build quality.
A lot of people seem to be buying sub-par, throw away units that. Fingers crossed that the Pace made Igloo boxes are built well and that the software is glitch free.
Sure the launch has been delayed and the content is expensive...
But for the money, it's not out of reach as a Freeview box. If they bring out a software update that allows recording to an encrypted USB stick - I think it could go okay.

Yeap that was what I was thinking, it could be a good quality freeview box compared to a lot of these really cheap ones you can get. But then again, many tvs now have freeview built in, and those tuners seem to be very reliable. So it would mainly be servicing those people with older CRT and LCD tvs, pre freeview era.

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#727127 4-Dec-2012 23:03

tonyhughes:
Chrisbexsta: I can plug a hdd in my tv and record tv that way my tv is smarter then igloo lol

You are missing the point of what igloo is - it's no more a PVR solution than your washing machine is - and not intended to be.

But unlike my washing machine, the Igloo box has been intentionally crippled to achieve this. $200 for a Freeview box you can't record with - whereas the $128 DishTV box can record 2 channels on an external drive.

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#729343 9-Dec-2012 17:27

What about the $200 to buy the box and $25 for 30 days of some Sky channels?
Sky basic has more channels and is only $21 a month dearer. Also there is no up front cost for the box.
I can't see many people downgrading from Sky to Igloo, and many looking at Igloo will probably go straight to Sky.
Will be interesting to see what the uptake is.

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#729347 9-Dec-2012 17:35

k1w1k1d:
Sky basic has more channels and is only $21 a month dearer. .

But that is almost double the subscription price. So it's hardly 'only'. Plus with igloo you get freeview channels in HD, which I don't think you get with sky basic. Not sure what channels igloo sky is missing, but probably nothing too great.

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#729418 9-Dec-2012 21:08

mattwnz:
k1w1k1d:
Sky basic has more channels and is only $21 a month dearer. .

But that is almost double the subscription price. So it's hardly 'only'. Plus with igloo you get freeview channels in HD, which I don't think you get with sky basic. Not sure what channels igloo sky is missing, but probably nothing too great.

Yes, but so what?

Igloo is DTT and so is Freeview. If you have and HD capable TV it's almost certainly Freeview capable, so you can already get the Freeview channels in HD simply by plugging the telly into the aerial (which you must have for Igloo to work). Since the Igloo STB doesn't record, there isn't much benefit, other than some convenience, replacing a Sky satellite decoder with an Igloo box that does HD Freeview Channels. Satellite decoder, plus telly plugged into an aerial, does the same thing.

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#729420 9-Dec-2012 21:16

JimmyH:
mattwnz:
k1w1k1d:
Sky basic has more channels and is only $21 a month dearer. .

But that is almost double the subscription price. So it's hardly 'only'. Plus with igloo you get freeview channels in HD, which I don't think you get with sky basic. Not sure what channels igloo sky is missing, but probably nothing too great.

Yes, but so what?
Satellite decoder, plus telly plugged into an aerial, does the same thing.

Yes but you are paying double the subscription price, and will be on a long term contract if you have just signed up. Iglooo is nearly half price of sky basic subscription minus some channels, without any fixed contract. Really you are sayin that it is a roduct with no market, which you are possily right. But I think it's market is those people who don't have a freeview decoder, such as many elderly .

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#729424 9-Dec-2012 21:19

$25 bucks a month to watch freeview?

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