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ronw

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#295594 8-Apr-2022 16:59
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I had facebook 2Fa turned on and using Google Authenticator to get the 2FA password. My phone had to be reset and I have lost all the 2FA records. (Yes I know it should be backed up but..)

 

Anyway I can still access facebook but would like to turn it off and recreate it again . Facebook will not allow this and say that you cannot remove 2FA anymore. Is this correct do I have a partially crippled account?
Any suggestions please





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  #2898696 8-Apr-2022 17:12
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Mine is still giving the option to turn off 2FA.

 

There's also an option to add another authenticator app.

 

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  #2898713 8-Apr-2022 18:16
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I cannot access that. When I get to the 2FA the disabke has been removed and a notice says Facebook had stopped this feature




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  #2898717 8-Apr-2022 18:31
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So you can’t even add another Authenticator app?



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  #2898720 8-Apr-2022 18:37
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No and I have discovered why. Facebook says we have identified users that need special security. These users must activate Facebook Protect. If you don't do this we will firce it to be enabled. Once this is enabled you cannot disable any of the security features. So I am stuck with 2FA on when if I cannot ever use the authenticator. Face book is so great not




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  #2899848 11-Apr-2022 14:26
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There are some good options here. I have both mobile and family set to get codes if I get locked out

 

https://www.facebook.com/help/148233965247823/?helpref=uf_share 


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  #2899855 11-Apr-2022 14:45
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It seems overkill to force users to use a security method that they cannot change it or back out of.
The sooner we get an alternative to Facebook the better




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  #2899874 11-Apr-2022 15:28
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You have basically done the online version of lost your house keys and are complaining that its hard to get back in. They have a recovery process that may require you to send them photos of ID and stuff, or use your trusted contacts which has worked fine for friends of mine that have lost access in the past except for the one who lied about everything to them and then had no ID to match it.





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  #2899912 11-Apr-2022 16:04
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We re not talking about banking or similar website weare talking about a social site that forced me into using 2FA and then locked me into it so that I could not change it. I am not locked out of Facebook I can continue to use it but I wonder what will happen if I do get locked out and cannot use the 2FA to get back in. All I wanted to do was take 2Fa off and tghen reapply it so I could get a new set of Emergency access numbers etc. The way they went around it was duplicitious. They told me  I was being transferred to the 2FA because of the number of postings I make. Then once it was installed they then told me that becuase I needed extra security (I don't really) I was going to have Facebook Protect installed. I did not get any choice in this matter and it was framed that this was just for a few high end users.

 

The joke now is that Facebook Protect which removes your ability to change 2FA etc is now being rolled out to everybody whether they like it or not. Pleanty of stuff on line about it but just wait till you are given no choice and find it has been imposed on you. Welcome to gthe meta verse more changes coming 

 

 





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  #2899937 11-Apr-2022 16:33
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Well it is more useful to scammers than a banking site. If accounts get compromised because of password reuse or gullibility, then the scammers have a field day promoting crap, begging off friends for discrete money to pay off something immoral, selling things that dont exist on the account and getting money sent to a mule's account who thinks they are working from home for good money and other things.

 

2 factor should be the norm for any site like that and they are fully in the right to force it on people that have a large enough following where there could be real losses from them losing access to the account. I have no problems with every person having to use 2 factor to get on there.





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  #2899939 11-Apr-2022 16:44
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I dont disagree I have no problem with 2FA and use it on other sites. My problem is becuase I had to reset my phone which had the authenticator on it I cannot use the authenticator becuase it now does not recognise the Facebook site. The only option I had was to disable it and re-install 2FA again. I also had no problem with Facebook requiring some form of identity check but they did not ask for that just told me that I fitted a profile that they require 2FA and will never allow it to be diabled. Catch 22 all over again





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  #2899949 11-Apr-2022 16:54
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Should be able to use a 2nd device signed in to fb on web and open at the time to authenticate the request also.

Or phone number as alternate if registered.

It does suggest if you didn't also allow these backup methods you may be out of luck. But there are measures if you didn't happen to do an online backup within the app first (I transferred all mine recently as easy as a QR code scan. But I had the old device still) if say linked to google.

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/how-to-recover-authenticator-app/41967/

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  #2899952 11-Apr-2022 16:57
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Unfortunately I did not have a choice the phone locked up and I had no choice. I still have my emergence numbers and I have full access to FB. I just wnat to remove Facebook Protect for 10 seconds but they say that cannot do that. I am guessing you dont have Protect on your devices





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  #2899962 11-Apr-2022 17:11
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If you're logged in already, can you just go in and add another app and scan the QR code? Or set it up on a u2f key?





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  #2899968 11-Apr-2022 17:28
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Nope. I don't.

But then it's gradual. And targeting a group I don't currently fit.

security program for groups of people that are more likely to be targeted by malicious hackers, such as human rights defenders, journalists, and government officials


I guess If advised its due interactions. There is also a subset of public that ate being targeted

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  #2899976 11-Apr-2022 18:05
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No Facebook Protect locks all those controls down so you can never change them again. The silly thing is I am just an ordinary user I dont belong to any of the catagories that Fack  user to refer to special users. I swallowed that at first  thinking theya re just protecting a group of people. But since then Facebook Protect is rolling out to another large group of users and the suspicion is that they will impose it on everybody.

 

Time will tell

 

 

 

richms:

 

If you're logged in already, can you just go in and add another app and scan the QR code? Or set it up on a u2f key?

 





Nokia 7 Plus
Nexus 6P 32Gb
Nexus 6 Phone
Nexus 5 Phone
Nexus 7 2013 Tablet
Samsung TAB A 8"
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