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# 247950 4-Mar-2019 16:37
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Hey team,

 

So my partner and I bought a new fireplace for about $1500 and got a quote to get it installed. We don't need a hearth as we have a concrete floor so it can just be drilled into that. We need a fluekit however there is already a hole in the ceiling and roof with some flue and a top cap thing on it that has all been signed off. So as we see it all we need is the flue kit and it to be connected to the top part, also the flue needs an offset as the fireplace with not be directly under the hole in the roof.

 

Anyways the quote we got back was for $2973.26 (see below)

 

Pioneer Double Flueshield 1 108.70
Fixed Bend SIS 45deg 150mm 2 34.78
Drop Box 250x600mm Black 1 72.17
Drop Box Cap Only Black 1 40.00
Ceiling Plate SIS 250mm 1 36.52
Cambi Flue 150/200/250x1200mm 1 146.96
ADD Cowl 150mm Mesh Bird Guard 1 62.61
Back/Soaker Flashing Galv Per/Metre 2 45.22
Flashrite Roof Flashing 200-300mm 1 95.65
Woodfire Installation & Materials 1 1255.00

 

We feel like we are being taken for a ride.

 

Can anyone provide any insight into this. We don't want to be cold for winter be we also don't want to get ripped off.

 

Anyways thanks GZ


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  # 2190840 4-Mar-2019 16:44
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It looks like they are quoting to replace the entire flue. Including the parts that are still on the roof. As the installer probably doesn't want to guarantee old parts.

Also have you got a consent? As my understanding is that you always need a consent to install a wood fire. Even if you are simply replacing an old fire.





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  # 2190847 4-Mar-2019 17:01
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A mate of mine had a new freestanding woodburner installed last year. From memory it cost him about $6k all up (including consents and signoff), although the flue did have to go through 2 storeys. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2190848 4-Mar-2019 17:14
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Where do you live, and is in town or on a larger rural section??


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  # 2191021 4-Mar-2019 22:50
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I assume you're getting multiple quotes?


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  # 2191025 4-Mar-2019 23:14
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Dratsab:

 

A mate of mine had a new freestanding woodburner installed last year. From memory it cost him about $6k all up (including consents and signoff), although the flue did have to go through 2 storeys. 

 

 

It probably cost me that in Chch 4 or 5 years ago.  Was about $6k all-up, the burner including standard flue kit was $3500, there were a few extras as it also needed a bend as it was right under the gable.  I probably saved a few hundred $ as I applied for the consents - which was a huge PITA (paperwork nightmare).  This for a clean air approved low-emission burner, but not an ultra low emission burner as required in Chch for a new installation.

 

You're not allowed to use an old flue.  The emissions test are carried out using the manufacturer supplied flue.  Not sure of the chances of getting away with using some old flue sections etc - the council inspectors do check out as much as they can see and want photos taken by the installer of stuff in the roof cavity, it'd be fairly obvious if old stuff as being reused.


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  # 2191030 5-Mar-2019 00:03
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You could buy the flue kit and parts yourself, and just get an installer to install it. We did this. Is this on a skillion or sloped ceiling, or is it an eco type flue, as I am wondering why you are using the dropbox. We were going to need a dropbox but the plumber who installed it instead was able to cut the flue on an angle. 


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  # 2191034 5-Mar-2019 06:40
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C'mon mate, do it yourself!

And just on the 'dont need a hearth' thing, is there just bare concrete where the fire will go?

Personally for me, hardest part was going through the roof. If that's already done, the rest is super easy
Just make sure you measure all the clearances around the fire exactly right- the council inspectors will check.

Edit: oh yea, and go get consent first too. Very easy

 
 
 
 


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  # 2191336 5-Mar-2019 12:35
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chevrolux: 

Edit: oh yea, and go get consent first too. Very easy

 

LOL.  Not in Chch it ain't.  It used to be - about 3 years before I installed the burner we have, I DIY installed another burner, relatively simple, the consent application was a doddle.


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  # 2191517 5-Mar-2019 19:18
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We had a fireplace installed 2 years ago for ~$5200, it was a a 16kw Jayline unit (hardly top of the line) but the price included installation, permits and all necessary accessories etc like the hearth and flue kit. I got a few different quotes at the time for similar installations and they were all around the same price. 


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  # 2191525 5-Mar-2019 19:31
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I get $1k less than your total by adding up your list.




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  # 2191621 5-Mar-2019 20:18
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andrewNZ: I get $1k less than your total by adding up your list.

 

Well spotted - LOL.




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  # 2192056 6-Mar-2019 12:02
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The 2 next to some items means quantity of 2. So you have to double those items. Furthermore GST is then added at the end.




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  # 2192057 6-Mar-2019 12:04
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Aredwood: It looks like they are quoting to replace the entire flue. Including the parts that are still on the roof. As the installer probably doesn't want to guarantee old parts.

Also have you got a consent? As my understanding is that you always need a consent to install a wood fire. Even if you are simply replacing an old fire.

 

Yea I think he wants to replace the entire thing which seems unnecessary.

 

Don't have consent yet, however it is my responsibly to get it. Once I have it he will come around and install it for that price.




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  # 2192058 6-Mar-2019 12:06
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wellygary:

 

Where do you live, and is in town or on a larger rural section??

 

 

We live in Pahiatua, its rural, just over 2 hectares.




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  # 2192068 6-Mar-2019 12:13
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mattwnz:

 

You could buy the flue kit and parts yourself, and just get an installer to install it. We did this. Is this on a skillion or sloped ceiling, or is it an eco type flue, as I am wondering why you are using the dropbox. We were going to need a dropbox but the plumber who installed it instead was able to cut the flue on an angle. 

 

 

Yea the ceiling is sloped. We have been quoted for a dropbox however I have no idea what this is. What is it for?


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