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#301961 19-Oct-2022 10:39

We got a F&P dishwasher when we built our house 7 odd years ago.

The dishwasher itself is good but the racks have literally disintegrated (rust). Ive replaced them once and they have failed again.

Just to clarify this is not from "abuse". While some of the rack pegs have rusted where they have been bent etc there are many areas that would NOT be subject to loading impact and have still failed (see below)

Replacement racks are about $400 for both top & bottom racks so Im tempted to just give up and get a new dishwasher. Ive checked TM and there seems to have been a run on 2nd hand spares too.

My previous 20 odd year experience with dishwashers is that the dishwasher itself would break before the racks were unusable.

Can anyone reccommend a dishwasher that they have had for several years and the racks are still good?

Shortlist currently is Samsung, Westinhouse and Haier. Looking around the $1000 mark.

PS we have always used F&P reccommended powder etc in case you were wondering

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#2984519 19-Oct-2022 10:58

I have Miele built in unit. It's about 12 years old and no issues with the racks. Also does a great job of doing dishes and can accommodate a lot of them. My only complaint is that it makes lot of triumphant noise when it finishes a cycle.

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#2984520 19-Oct-2022 11:02

I bought the F&P DW60CCX1 DISHWASHER CLASSIC SS in Feb 2012 for $1100, so now over 10 years old and used 1 or 2 times a day. It replaced a 20yo+ ASKO and while it has needed a couple of drying fans (due to poor design and water ingress) it been pretty good. The racks as you can see below are still in good nick, even the knife tray in the top which we put our super sharp kinves in to wash isnt damaged like your trays seem to be. Once the plastic coasting is damaged understandably you will get rust issues.

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#2984524 19-Oct-2022 11:12

Bosch racks, fine after 10 years. We like the cutlery rack at the top way better than baskets. We've had to replace a door latch, a door handle, and a seal at about the 10 year mark, but it's still working well other than that.

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#2984525 19-Oct-2022 11:12

I'd be inclined to raise a case with F&P. You should not have to replace racks twice in 7 years. I've never had rust issues with dishwasher racks of any brand or age, and I've used probably 6 in the past 15 years ranging from 1-2 years old to over 10. If you don't have any luck (I'm guessing you won't), perhaps you could throw the CGA at them?

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#2984649 19-Oct-2022 12:25

I'd say its an Apple response, of you're using it wrong.

The way you load it is damaging the plastic coating, do you put sharp knives blade down early in the loading process and they are rubbing/cutting the plastic etc

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#2984660 19-Oct-2022 13:10

Avoid Samsung, we have a 4 year old Samsung fridge and all the plastics are cracking, falling off the shelves.

They are refusing to replace it.

With regards to a dishwasher - just get the cheapest Bosch. https://www.kitchenthings.co.nz/bosch-smu4hts01a-60cm-under-counter-dishwasher?nosto=frontpage-nosto-3

That unit, with some haggling can be purchased for around $1350.

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#2984662 19-Oct-2022 13:18

We replaced a 10 year old F&P with a new LG about 3 or 4 years ago. It's still like new, too.

When we went to get a new one, I had a budget of around $1000.

The store talked us out of the newer F&P ones as they said they'd experienced more returns than any other brand.

In the end, for our budget, there was LG and Beko, at that time - the Beko ones being slightly higher in price than the LG on that particular occasion.

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#2984663 19-Oct-2022 13:21

Handsomedan:

The store talked us out of the newer F&P ones as they said they'd experienced more returns than any other brand.

F&P are now just made by a Chinese company called Haier, and from what I've heard - the quality has really gone downhills since the takeover.

So you are effectively getting a Chinese dishwasher with a premium label/feel.

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#2984670 19-Oct-2022 13:34

turtleattacks:

Handsomedan:

The store talked us out of the newer F&P ones as they said they'd experienced more returns than any other brand.

F&P are now just made by a Chinese company called Haier, and from what I've heard - the quality has really gone downhills since the takeover.

So you are effectively getting a Chinese dishwasher with a premium label/feel.

That's largely what we were told by the store - made in the Haier factory and for the premium you get some more sound deadening material and maybe a couple of extra buttons/programme features.

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#2984797 19-Oct-2022 16:19

We have just replaced our F&P dish-drawers after 12 years. In part because rust was starting to show. All it takes is a small cut or scratch on the plastic coating and away it goes. It seems that F&P have solved this problem by making everything inside the dishwasher 100% plastic.

I agree with other comments that F&P as a brand has lost its premium status, and across most of it's products is not recommended. Shame.

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#2984801 19-Oct-2022 16:37

what did you replace them with? We're considering dishdrawers because we don't even use a dishwasher right now in a household of 2, so 1 drawers would be easier to fill.

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#2984803 19-Oct-2022 16:48

testycanuck:

what did you replace them with? We're considering dishdrawers because we don't even use a dishwasher right now in a household of 2, so 1 drawers would be easier to fill.

New dish-drawers. We like the form factor and way you can use them separately, and as a built in model it was relatively straight forward to install as thankfully the cabinet was an exact match. New model is sooooo much quieter!

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#2984804 19-Oct-2022 16:49

scuwp:

testycanuck:

what did you replace them with? We're considering dishdrawers because we don't even use a dishwasher right now in a household of 2, so 1 drawers would be easier to fill.

New dish-drawers. We like the form factor and way you can use them separately, and as a built in model it was relatively straight forward to install as thankfully the cabinet was an exact match. New model is sooooo much quieter!

I thought only F&P makes the drawers?

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#2984806 19-Oct-2022 16:52

Handsomedan:

I'd get another LG in a heartbeat - it's been so good, I am considering replacing our F&P toploading washing machine with an LG front-loader.

Have just done this and can recommend. After a heap of research LG was best value for money. There are some differences to how you do the washing in a front loader (use less soap, no fabric softener, get use to cardboard towels). Absolutely everywhere we went we were told to stay well away from F&P front loaders.

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#2984815 19-Oct-2022 17:06

turtleattacks:

I thought only F&P makes the drawers?

Fisher & Paykel have a trademark on the DishDrawer name, so yes only F & P can make DishDrawer dishwashers.

However other manufactures can make "Drawer like" dishwashers.

Award and Midea spring to mind.

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