Watching Spark Sport (including launch and pricing)

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#2285505 30-Jul-2019 08:19

Spark have also suggested there are no plans to change the frame rate (for the EPL at least) due to device compatibility issues. That's pretty poor form as far as I'm concerned. Football needs 60fps to reduce judder from the moving ball. Without it, it's horrible to watch.

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#2285509 30-Jul-2019 08:24

demeter23:

Spark have also suggested there are no plans to change the frame rate (for the EPL at least) due to device compatibility issues. That's pretty poor form as far as I'm concerned. Football needs 60fps to reduce judder from the moving ball. Without it, it's horrible to watch.

Agree, it was great. Sky looks good on my plasma, SS is a step up as its progressive, not interlaced. Watching Wimbledon wasnt fun, seeing the ball flit across the screen on off on off

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#2285514 30-Jul-2019 08:47

I think the framerate issue will bite them. Sure some people will be happy to not have Sky to watch EPL but there will be a lot of people who want to watch the RWC who are used to SS framerates and will complain... I'm certainly noticing the issue in football games, like I did with premier league pass; which was a spark venture with colosseum.. a trend maybe?

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#2285515 30-Jul-2019 08:53

tdgeek:

Ok, seen your screenshots, I know that issue. First time I saw it, it looked like it covered most but not all the screen. Maybe optical illusion. That flicker is not all the time. When I have seen it, it wasn't all the time, it was on some but not all track cameras. Someone here from Spark confirmed it was in the feed. That makes sense as it was not on all cameras. I watched end of FP3 tonight, and qualifying and the race, and after race, I didn't notice it. The frame issue is there still.

Yeh it wasn't all the time it was mostly just on certain parts and certain cameras. Really that was in the world feed? I will have to check with someone I know it the UK who hopefully still has a recording of the race.

I noticed this weekend that the blacks don't have as many encoding errors this weekend. The black of the track at Austria and Britain was full of blocks and looked terrible. Didn't see it as much this weekend.

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#2285518 30-Jul-2019 08:56

Damn - thank goodness I caught up on this thread.

Was just about to sub for the EPL for the new season - but if it's 30fps I reckon I'll not bother. Whats the point of having a modern 4K fast refresh rate TV if the source is going to limit input to 30fps?

The excuse of 'its so more devices can access it' is BS - it's more likely that it's less work for their servers to offer 30fps and therefore they can offer it to more people before the servers are overloaded.

Classic bait and switch - here try the service isn't it great? Oh, now we have a bunch of customers lets degrade it slowly and hope people don't notice...

Voting with my wallet.

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#2285520 30-Jul-2019 09:01

niallm90:

I noticed this weekend that the blacks don't have as many encoding errors this weekend. The black of the track at Austria and Britain was full of blocks and looked terrible. Didn't see it as much this weekend.

I've not noticed those types of errors, block artifacts. If I saw an odd issue that was like once every 3 hours, Id write it off as the odd vagary. From day one its been very good, better than Sky's 1080i/60 as its 1080p/60. Not now though

My platform is iPad to Airplay, and now Apple TV4. I think some other platforms may have had other issues

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#2285589 30-Jul-2019 10:21

How are you measuring FPS? Is it just an eyeball test?

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#2285590 30-Jul-2019 10:23

Press F12 in Firefox and go to the network tab.

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#2285596 30-Jul-2019 10:30

arnies:

How are you measuring FPS? Is it just an eyeball test?

Mine is. It was great. Now there is judder on panning. Juddering tennis balls aren't great Then it was disclosed here.

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#2285670 30-Jul-2019 13:04

niallm90:

Press F12 in Firefox and go to the network tab.

And in Chrome?

never fear, smith is here

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#2285712 30-Jul-2019 13:15

smidon:

niallm90:

Press F12 in Firefox and go to the network tab.

And in Chrome?

I don't use Chome but I believe it has something similar.

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#2285714 30-Jul-2019 13:15

Spark is going to show a RWC channel on Sky...

RNZ: Rivals Spark and Sky team up for Rugby World Cup

Edit: Fix link

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#2285717 30-Jul-2019 13:19

niallm90:

Spark is going to show a RWC channel on Sky...

RNZ: Rivals Spark and Sky team up for Rugby World Cup

Edit: Fix link

I thought it was commercial customers only?

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#2285721 30-Jul-2019 13:24

networkn:

niallm90:

Spark is going to show a RWC channel on Sky...

RNZ: Rivals Spark and Sky team up for Rugby World Cup

Edit: Fix link

I thought it was commercial customers only?

Hmm, I'm not sure. The article states:

The deal will allow Sky customers and commercial premises

But then the quotes tell the opposite story.

"We are pleased to be able to work together with Spark to deliver this alternative access option for our commercial customers, including those in rural areas who do not yet have access to fast enough broadband."

Edit: Grammar

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#2285722 30-Jul-2019 13:27

Its commercial only. I assume pubs, clubs, motel/hotel accommodation. While they can all get up to speed streaming, Sky infrastructure is widespread in these businesses already

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