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#3230517 14-May-2024 21:06

Every one of these threads goes the same way. Everyone wants quality news and current affairs but no-one wants to pay for it or even watch ads to fund it. That's how you end up with trash like TVNZ, NZME and Stuff.

As I said in another similar thread, TVNZ should have been privatised back in the 90s when the Bolger government privatised the commercial arm of RNZ.

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#3230524 14-May-2024 21:35

Wombat1: Still using my trusty 'Vintage' Tivo from my days in NZ, and it's been with me since 2011, faithfully spinning away. Honestly, I've yet to find a suitable replacement for this old gem.

Exactly the kind of tech that might save broadcast tv if they were any good at promoting content.

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#3230528 14-May-2024 21:54

I have TVNZ and TV3 apps and others on my Chromecast Google TV. I never see promoted content from those services, at all. It's a very silly situation.

I'm assuming this is the same for OEM TV with Google TV and Android TV.

Checking now I see it promotes some TVNZ stuff but zero current affairs, and zero from TV3 and Maori+ apps.

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#3230607 15-May-2024 07:23

gzt:
openmedia: Depending on where you live you can access a digital copy of "The Listener" for free via the Libby library app.

This publication I've averaged one purchase a year for a long time now. There is a lot to like about it. Like many things the transition to digital was very late. They seem to be doing well so perhaps it worked out well over the years.

Is it readable on Libby? and what kind of screensize is required for a good experience? 28" 4K monitor with 3:2 aspect ratio? ; )

Very readable on a 10" android tablet. You can zoom in if the text isn't large enough

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#3230641 15-May-2024 09:47

gzt: I have TVNZ and TV3 apps and others on my Chromecast Google TV. I never see promoted content from those services, at all. It's a very silly situation.

I'm assuming this is the same for OEM TV with Google TV and Android TV.

Checking now I see it promotes some TVNZ stuff but zero current affairs, and zero from TV3 and Maori+ apps.

The ThreeNow (TV3) App is rubbish in a lot of ways, I assumed that development time in it had gone to largely zero while they were figuring out the future of Newshub etc.

Consuming content from TV3 via either SmartTV or Chromecast is not always a seamless affair.

But also - I don't necessarily get a lot of value from promoted content. I periodically will troll within the app looking for shows of interest. Shrug.
What I mean is - i'm not sure that the absence of promoted content is in itself a huge deal; they know who their audiences are and there are other advertising mediums.

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#3230642 15-May-2024 09:58

I rejected broadcast television as a student in the late 1970s, and was confirmed in that rejection by living in the UK where the BBC seemed to be a propaganda arm of the government. Because I'm not used to it TV advertising is horrible; it's stressful concentrating on not being brainwashed (aka brand awareness, or the like).

Most "young" people, millennials onward, don't watch OTA television. It's a dying medium. Good riddance.

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#3230807 15-May-2024 14:27

You guys will be singing a different tune after someone cuts the international fibres (by accident or otherwise).

I installed Freeview satellite at my brother rural property last year:

1) After cyclone Gabriel took out the cell-sites, FM radio and bridges in his region he didn't have much of a clue what was going on out in the world for 2 or 3 weeks. (he had to get his news from the 65y.o.+ neighbours, equipped with Freeview/Sky who live 1km away).

2) He has been prone to going down conspiracy/foreign political rabbit-holes since unplugging from N.Z. and acquiring all his news and entertainment from the internet.

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#3230808 15-May-2024 14:31

alasta:

Every one of these threads goes the same way. Everyone wants quality news and current affairs but no-one wants to pay for it or even watch ads to fund it. That's how you end up with trash like TVNZ, NZME and Stuff.

As I said in another similar thread, TVNZ should have been privatised back in the 90s when the Bolger government privatised the commercial arm of RNZ.

IMO we should be paying for it through our taxes. We used to have a license fee, which got switched to the government funding it directly from taxes. But I don't know if they have increased this funding over the years. The UK has the BBC for this reason. Although they still have the old TV license thing which is a dated way to charge. But the NZ model doesn't see to work because governments will often try to cut back spending to make their books look better.

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#3230809 15-May-2024 14:37

tripper1000:

You guys will be singing a different tune after someone cuts the international fibres (by accident or otherwise).

Um, I think not getting Shortie St and the TVNZ News will be the least of our concerns if that happens.

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#3230815 15-May-2024 15:02

johno1234:

tripper1000:

You guys will be singing a different tune after someone cuts the international fibres (by accident or otherwise).

Um, I think not getting Shortie St and the TVNZ News will be the least of our concerns if that happens.

TVNZ News is supposed to be a reliable, local source of ... news.

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#3230819 15-May-2024 15:15

mattwnz:

alasta:

Every one of these threads goes the same way. Everyone wants quality news and current affairs but no-one wants to pay for it or even watch ads to fund it. That's how you end up with trash like TVNZ, NZME and Stuff.

As I said in another similar thread, TVNZ should have been privatised back in the 90s when the Bolger government privatised the commercial arm of RNZ.

IMO we should be paying for it through our taxes. We used to have a license fee, which got switched to the government funding it directly from taxes.

We already have that. It's called RNZ.

TVNZ is not a public broadcaster, and has very limited perpetual commercial value. The best the government can do now is make a plan to wind it down over the next 5 - 10 years as its aging audience diminishes.

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#3230830 15-May-2024 15:40

reven:

I don't know anyone who watches tvnz/tv3 on demand or whatever they have.

I watch the odd thing on these. At the moment I'm watching Star Trek Discovery on TVNZ+ because it's not on any of the streaming services that I subscribe to. They also tend to have some very good UK crime dramas.

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#3230831 15-May-2024 15:40

BlakJak:

TVNZ News is supposed to be a reliable, local source of ... news.

Yes it is. Too bad it instead is a reliable source of theatre, editorial and opinion.

You get much better news on the radio. Less of the over-produced content, anchor interviewing a reporter schtick, pointless live crosses and so on.

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#3230834 15-May-2024 15:58

johno1234:
You get much better news on the radio. Less of the over-produced content, anchor interviewing a reporter schtick, pointless live crosses and so on.

For a long time the news on the RNZ concert programme was similarly over-produced. It seems there's only one way to train journalists.

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#3230836 15-May-2024 16:02

MurrayM:

reven:

I don't know anyone who watches tvnz/tv3 on demand or whatever they have.

I watch the odd thing on these. At the moment I'm watching Star Trek Discovery on TVNZ+ because it's not on any of the streaming services that I subscribe to. They also tend to have some very good UK crime dramas.

But you're watching it at a vastly lower quality than paramont+ and other services that the rest of the world gets. three now and tvnz+ are low quality services with ads.

Really video media needs to become like music where all services have a decent catalog of stuff instead of them all being their own little silos of exclusive stuff. Otherwise its a pirate life for me.

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