Youtube now complaining about use of ad stoppers

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#3151641 24-Oct-2023 00:44

MarkM536:

K8Toledo:

uBlock working as expected here, no nags.

uBlock on:

uBlock off:

Ad blocking detection seems to be less effective on Firefox.

I wonder if/when Google Chrome added a function so that websites can ask the browser what extensions are running.

@MarkM536

I just tested in Chrome and got the same results as Firefox.

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#3152153 25-Oct-2023 15:37

I'm using Adblocker for Youtube on Chrome browser that seems to work OK. No way am I paying $17.99 / month for YT Premium just to get rid of ads.

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#3152157 25-Oct-2023 15:44

old3eyes:
I'm using Adblocker for Youtube on Chrome browser that seems to work OK. No way am I paying $17.99 / month for YT Premium just to get rid of ads.

YouTube is not a free service. It is funded by subscription or advertising revenue. The content creators are entitled to payment for the content they provide viewers

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3152161 25-Oct-2023 15:49

MikeB4: YouTube is not a free service. It is funded by subscription or advertising revenue. The content creators are entitled to payment for the content they provide viewers

Google has evolved from "do no evil" to a truly evil company that deserves not a cent of our money. I'll give creators I deem worth it funding via Patreon or similar but it will be a cold day in hell before I let Google make a cent of profit off me.

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#3152183 25-Oct-2023 16:51

If a data-aggressive tech company complains about something, then apparently something has been or is being done right.😆

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#3152200 25-Oct-2023 18:11

Lias:

MikeB4: YouTube is not a free service. It is funded by subscription or advertising revenue. The content creators are entitled to payment for the content they provide viewers

Google has evolved from "do no evil" to a truly evil company that deserves not a cent of our money. I'll give creators I deem worth it funding via Patreon or similar but it will be a cold day in hell before I let Google make a cent of profit off me.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Vodafone.

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#3152207 25-Oct-2023 19:21

K8Toledo:

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Vodafone.

I mean yeah Vodafone (and Spark, Chorus, etc) have a history of being evil.. but not Google level evil.

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#3152266 26-Oct-2023 00:43

Lias:

K8Toledo:

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Vodafone.

I mean yeah Vodafone (and Spark, Chorus, etc) have a history of being evil.. but not Google level evil.

Lol.
I do remember when Google were the good guys and Gmail was invite only. My, how far we've come.
I doubt anyone back in early 00's foresaw Google becoming the giant gorilla it is today.

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#3152292 26-Oct-2023 09:42

MikeB4:

YouTube is not a free service. It is funded by subscription or advertising revenue. The content creators are entitled to payment for the content they provide viewers

My understanding is that you only get paid by YT if you have >1,000 subscribers (source google) and that only about 10% of channels meet this threshold (source google search).

If that information is correct, then almost all content creators aren't getting paid.

Mike

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#3156292 5-Nov-2023 17:41

It just occurred to me that there would be thread about this on GeekZone. It is so intensely annoying, and having read through the thread, I see I am not the only person questioning YouTube's add selection algorithm. Some of them are bat-poop crazy from people selling snake oil. How on earth they afford to place their ads is a mystery. It has worked out that I have an interest in content creation, and inviting me to use Adobe products, but I already have a full subscription (I get it free for helping folk on the Adobe forums) so that's a waste. I hate the adds so much it is going to cut back on the time I spend watching YT, so if that turns out to be a pattern, that's an own goal on their part.

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#3156293 5-Nov-2023 17:45

old3eyes:

I'm using Adblocker for Youtube on Chrome browser that seems to work OK. No way am I paying $17.99 / month for YT Premium just to get rid of ads.

Have you not seen any of the 'three strikes and we stop your videos' warning pop-ups?

Are you having to clear browser cache or us incognito or play any other silly bugger games to make this work?

[EDIT] I'm seeing several comments saying ad revenue is down for the content creators. Are the sort of figures we see on sites like Social Blade no longer valid?

They are claiming that a channel like The Slow Mo Guys, that has close to 15 million subscribers, but does not put up a lot of videos, still manages up to US$400K a year.

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#3156299 5-Nov-2023 18:45

TLD:

Have you not seen any of the 'three strikes and we stop your videos' warning pop-ups?

Are you having to clear browser cache or us incognito or play any other silly bugger games to make this work?

Nope 3 strike warnings, if you are using Ublock orgin you just need to follow these steps to update its blocking filter.

Step 1: First, click on the uBlock Origin icon (the red sheild), and then select the “Open the dashboard” (3 cog wheels icon) option in the menu that pops up.

Step 2: This opens a new window or tab, Now, switch over to the “Filter Lists” tab in the dashboard.

Step 3: Look for a button that says “purge all caches” and give it a click.

Step 4: After that, hit the “update now” button, wait for update.

Step 5: Refresh Youtube page or close all browser windows and re-open broswer and happy sailing (mixed results of F5 vs close and open broswer).

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#3156382 5-Nov-2023 20:59

MikeB4: YouTube is not a free service. It is funded by subscription or advertising revenue.

They sell my metrics to every advertising Tom, Dick and Harry under the sun.

If they want me to pay, they can stop selling my data. The last part of that sentence isn't likely to happen, which means the first part isn't either.

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#3156417 5-Nov-2023 21:45

You can opt out of personal advertising

https://adssettings.google.com/anonymous?hl=en

As I recall the advertising is worse when opted out. Maybe you're opted out already and that's why its bad?

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#3156419 5-Nov-2023 21:54

If YT wants me to see ads or pay, perhaps they could consider:

Not demonetising any content that is even remotely risque, political, or violent, on the grounds that it might scare advertisers
Not selling ads that blatantly violate the above
Better handling of copyright strikes and abuse of copyright warnings against legitimate discussion

If they wanted to cut costs, and the general argument is that serving high-bandwidth video is a high cost, reducing the availability of e.g. 1140p60 streams would seem like an obvious start...

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