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#890799 6-Sep-2013 11:03

As suggested, renamed the Quickflix subforum to cover ALL streaming services, so moving this discussion to newly renamed forum.

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#890857 6-Sep-2013 12:31

I for one think the whole Sky monopoly is not BS as just because they're not showing it it doesn't mean they don't have the rights locked up. Quickflix is partly owned by HBO but can't show any HBO offerings due to Sky having the HBO rights.

What does Sky put on in regards to the HBO series??? I doubt they're running even half of the available content.

I feel and I know others that feel the same way that until there is government regulation into the monopoly that Sky actually does have they'll never have true competition.

I'd love to see Quickflix and Ezyflix keep in there and hope people keep supporting them as sure they're not the best at providing content when you're comparing them to places like Hulu or Netflix but come on no one here is even watching those legitimately as these services all have terms in their user agreements stating they're for their intended markets.

Ezyflix is offering you the chance to own the content for less than you can get it on DVD / Bluray not a rental and although you can choose to just rent the items not everyone wants that.

The tie in with Ultraviolet is a good thing too as later on pretty much all of our content is going to be digitally provided and having access to your content when and where you want it is key to that or have you all forgotten what the strategy behind Sky leaving their satelite dishes at every house that's ever had it installed. Pretty sure it's not because it's a case of being too lazy to pick it up. It's about having the equipment ready and available this works not only for them but for new people at the property as it instantly gives them a option of a rather quick solution for them to be able to get their hands on what is undoubtedly the best offering we have in NZ. Please note do not think that me stating best offering meaning I like or think Sky is good. I think they've ruined sports availability for a lot of people and now when we are begging for solutions all we get are half offerings because no one has the chance to break that monopoly.

I'd like to see the Ultraviolet thing tie into some other retail places so we can do DVD/Bluray to Digital for a nominal fee and add our collections we already have on to their system.

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#890883 6-Sep-2013 13:13

sure but what about non UK shows? quickflix only appears to have those.

surely they could offer shows like
- Cheers
- Frasier
- Mash
- Outrageous Fortune
- Almighty Johnsons
- Friends
- Home Improvement
- Supernatural
- Arrow
- Once Upon a Time
- House
- Macgyver
- Knight Rider
- Jack and the neverland pirates
- Dinosaur Train
- Dora
- Go Diego Go
- Thomas the Tank engine
- Star Trek, TNG, DS9, Voyageur, Enterprise

etc, lots of old shows (which mostly are on netflix, i was just thinking up examples), sky cant have all the american/nz tv shows tied down.

For me, 99% of what I watch on netflix (my house uses about 3-4 hours of netflix a night on average I suppose) is tv shows. Right now I've started watching Breaking Bad, also watching BSG. My son loves Jack and the neverland pirates and dinosaur train.

I don't need it to have the latest season, I dont care if it has a lot of old stuff. As long as it has a lot of stuff to watch.

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#890888 6-Sep-2013 13:21

I'm not sure why people are hating on the costs of Ezyflix. It looked pretty similar to iTunes and VUDU pricing at $4 - $6 to rent a movie and $2-$3 per tv episode.

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#891030 6-Sep-2013 17:18

davidcole: I'm not sure why people are hating on the costs of Ezyflix. It looked pretty similar to iTunes and VUDU pricing at $4 - $6 to rent a movie and $2-$3 per tv episode.

You can get 1 month of netflix for abount $8 USD and another $5 for unblockus and watch all 5 seasons of breaking bad

ezyflix would set you back ~ $100

I guess if iTunes is the competition its ok, but no way is this comprable to netflix, amazon or hulu

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#891065 6-Sep-2013 19:21

Don't compare ezyflix to Netflix. It's a completely different model. Ezyflix compares vudu, iTunes and amazon instant.

Netflix and quickflix compares as they're a subscription model.

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#891207 7-Sep-2013 09:47

They aren't that different. While they are different in some respects, fundamentally they are both about paying money to watch a selection of films and TV streamed over the internet. Some are pay per episode, others are pay per view, but ultimately they offer essentially the same experience.

killerkiwinz's point was that for watching a material amount of TV (say a breaking bad marathon), you can do it on either model/service, but ezyflix is vastly more expensive than Netflix to do so. That comparison is perfectly valid.

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#891242 7-Sep-2013 11:26

This is of course if you don't mind breaking the terms of service instead of trying to support local businesses and make things better for all by showing that support. Using your same argument Netflix + VPN is expensive compared to renting the series from a video store if they've got the show in question.

How do you expect to actually get good services available to all in NZ if you're all so willing to give your money to overseas providers? Sure you can argue price & content is key but if no one supports these local services then how can they expect to offer what you want over a long established international offering.

Do you feel like this with regards to things like clothing buying things made from cheap markets like China is significantly cheaper than buying NZ made but I'd rather support a local supplier over offshore profits any day. When will people learn that without support then you're only doing yourself a disservice in the long run. What happens on the off chance that one day Netflix or other services like this actually become unavailable (for whatever reason) & you've not tried supporting local options what then?

We'd have no alternative to go back to places like Sky or back to the video store. Better services and options come about from support from your market. It's very obvious there's a demand for services like Ezyflix & Quickflix but if all you're ever going to do is complain about them not being as good as the international established services then really NZ as a whole will stay where it is back in the dark ages with the bulk of us complaining about things they could have actually done something about.

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#891247 7-Sep-2013 11:51

If netflix becomes unavailable and theres no good alternative (a rubbish service like quickflix, sorry their tv content is laughable) I guess ill have to resort to other means.

Arguing you have to support local only goes so far, so do yiu subscribe to all the nz services have you rented movies from ezyflix?

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#891352 7-Sep-2013 16:07

Was using Quickflix for about 6 months (stopped when lost my job) and certainly will be using Ezyflix as I have a Ultraviolet collection that I intend to build on. I also used to use Netflix and although their content amount was awesome I found myself not really using it.

As I have said several times if you don't give these companies your support then how can their services grow??? Or do you expect a company to just spend millions setting up to suit all your needs then take 10 years to make a profit give it some support give it a little time and then you'll see that the content amounts will grow but if you all just go oh we can get better from an international provider then yeah we may as well all lobby the Govt to change things so we can have some decent competition and growth in this area...oh wait that's right no ones interested in growth just instant gratification welcome to the digital age of impatience.

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#891356 7-Sep-2013 16:15

Companies will lose money for the first few years. But if they want to stixk around they need
1, good deliver options (freeview channel is great idea, want to test this when quickflix releases is)
2, if their content is rubbish and very very limited you can't argue we should support it and give them our money just because they're local. Which they aren't anyway.

The prices for movie rentals are too high IMO for old movies.

If they managed to get latest tv shows (next day airing etc from the us) then I would and I assume others (assuming deliver is sorted) will happily pay a season pass for them. Eg the walking dead, dexter, game of thrones etc

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#891363 7-Sep-2013 16:55

jtbthatsme: This is of course if you don't mind breaking the terms of service instead of trying to support local businesses and make things better for all by showing that support. Using your same argument Netflix + VPN is expensive compared to renting the series from a video store if they've got the show in question.

I don't actually have Netflix, but if I wanted what they offer I would have no qualms about paying for it and signing up. And yes, there is a bit of options analysis to do. If I only wanted one series then the local video store is cheaper and, providing it was convenient, that's where I would go. If I wanted many TV series then the local store probably isn't cheaper.

How do you expect to actually get good services available to all in NZ if you're all so willing to give your money to overseas providers? Sure you can argue price & content is key but if no one supports these local services then how can they expect to offer what you want over a long established international offering.

Cry me a river. How do you expect to get good service available in NZ if an outfit can get away with offering shoddy service at inflated prices, and expect to get away with it because they are local and don't have to compete? They are all private businesses out to make a buck for their shareholder, irrespective of the suffix on their domain name. I will buy from whoever offers me the best value when I weigh up product offering, price, support and convenience etc. And, personally I am fed off with "rip off NZ" on the service and price front.

Do you feel like this with regards to things like clothing buying things made from cheap markets like China is significantly cheaper than buying NZ [...]

Yes. Provided the quality/price mix is appropriate viz., other options.

When will people learn that without support then you're only doing yourself a disservice in the long run. What happens on the off chance that one day Netflix or other services like this actually become unavailable (for whatever reason) & you've not tried supporting local options what then?

Don't worry we have learned, and learned that NZ providers who rely on a small market to offer crappy product at exploitative prices have been gouging us for years. Clothing makers found it out a few years ago, when they could no longer hide behind 60%+ tariff barriers and a lack of options to privately import. The book and film retailers are learning it now. Hopefully the TV and film industry will make learn it soon. They are welcome to my dollar, as long as they offer me value for money.

We'd have no alternative to go back to places like Sky or back to the video store. Better services and options come about from support from your market. It's very obvious there's a demand for services like Ezyflix & Quickflix but if all you're ever going to do is complain about them not being as good as the international established services then really NZ as a whole will stay where it is back in the dark ages with the bulk of us complaining about things they could have actually done something about.

Cobblers. You will still have options - you can stick with Netflix, for instance, as an option. Or Amazon, or Hulu, or whatever other service you want. Alternatively, maybe the need to be competitive will finally make a player step up to the plate and offer a value service. If we just shrug whenever a company offers us rubbish service at an inflated price, say "oh well, they're local" and open our wallets then that's all we will ever get offered. We are doing something about it, something to which markets tend to respond well, we are voting with our wallets.

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#891364 7-Sep-2013 16:57

JimmyH: They aren't that different. While they are different in some respects, fundamentally they are both about paying money to watch a selection of films and TV streamed over the internet. Some are pay per episode, others are pay per view, but ultimately they offer essentially the same experience.

killerkiwinz's point was that for watching a material amount of TV (say a breaking bad marathon), you can do it on either model/service, but ezyflix is vastly more expensive than Netflix to do so. That comparison is perfectly valid.

Again I'd disagree. Generally netflix releases movies as per dvd release schedule and so therefore the content is relatively old. Update to date tv as a subscription model is hulu plus at $7.99 - of which some is available on devices, more is available via browser....but ad supported.. Pay per episode is itunes/vudu and amazon. These latter 3 generally have content withing 24 hours or it being broadcast, and will cost you $2 - $3 per episode, or $20 - $30 for a season. Similar to eziflix.

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#891372 7-Sep-2013 17:19

I've tried using reason but people are more interested in just slamming services for what they can't do than actually giving the reps for making a effort to get into a market where Sky has gouged and controlled for so long everyone either uses them or jumps online, pirates or uses the internet grey area to use Netflix.

Been there done that and moved on JimmyH wants me to cry a river for him but he can't even read properly as his last point was pointless to what I'd said as I said what if they weren't available. Selective reading I think but I can't be bothered trying to get the point across that if no one cares to try support services then we really should not be complaining about what's offered. Ultimately they're all right you can get better overseas and it's all about them.

It's a bit like those plonkers who complain about the govt but don't vote. Narrow minded people can keep their opinions as I'm not interested in them.

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#891377 7-Sep-2013 17:27

jtbthatsme: I've tried using reason but people are more interested in just slamming services for what they can't do than actually giving the reps for making a effort to get into a market where Sky has gouged and controlled for so long everyone either uses them or jumps online, pirates or uses the internet grey area to use Netflix.

Been there done that and moved on JimmyH wants me to cry a river for him but he can't even read properly as his last point was pointless to what I'd said as I said what if they weren't available. Selective reading I think but I can't be bothered trying to get the point across that if no one cares to try support services then we really should not be complaining about what's offered. Ultimately they're all right you can get better overseas and it's all about them.

It's a bit like those plonkers who complain about the govt but don't vote. Narrow minded people can keep their opinions as I'm not interested in them.

you argument is flawed, thats why its not coming across.

you cant reasonable expect people to pay for a substandard service just to support it. thats not realistic.

you shouldnt compare eziflix to netflix, you can compare quickflix to netflix. we should all be comparing eziflix to vudu, which offers the latest episodes of many shows the day after they air (who get my money for shows like the walking dead, and will continue to do so until there is an alternative).

yes, I would rather pay a local company than an overseas one. however, I'm not prepared to pay the same amount of money for a service I will hardly use, due to the fact they dont have the content.

if there is a movie I want to rent, that isn't on netflix, I will check eziflix/quickflix (assuming I can access it in a easy manner) and if its the same price (or there abouts), I will happily pay that (also assuming the quality is the same).

quickflix is doing the right thing by the freeview app, they need to make it easy to view their content. but they arent doing the right thing by their TV content. (I know this is a eziflix thread, but we talking the general services here). Movies are great, but I wont watch a movie every night, I will however watch tv shows, multiple episodes, every night. so they really need to work on that to get my monthly subscription.

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