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#1370629 19-Aug-2015 23:31

I guess that all the people on here that boast about using USA streaming services will be the first to be hit.

natlukros: How are the ird going to be able to detect somebody accessing netflix within NZ but paying with a non NZ credit card?

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#1370647 20-Aug-2015 06:24

ronw: I guess that all the people on here that boast about using USA streaming services will be the first to be hit.

Do you really consider it boasting? Anyone can do it and the cost is negligible. Not much to boast about.

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#1370844 20-Aug-2015 12:31

I am quite prepared to pay gst on the products/services I source from overseas.

I see there are threats of being hit with a 25,000 fine for activity avoiding/not paying this.

So is there going to be a mechanism by which I can pay the gst or is it going to be a case of you can _only_ buy services from these big name brands who IRD have made arrangements with....

(otherwise use a smaller company and risk a 25,000 fine (although realistically it wont be that big)

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#1428973 16-Nov-2015 15:16

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/74076061/gst-to-go-on-digital-goods-from-october

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#1429058 16-Nov-2015 16:52

What a crappy text. They managed to not mention Netflix by name even when quoting someone and when talking about Spark.

Journalism at worst.

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#1429062 16-Nov-2015 17:07

Use a VPN to dodge copyright= OK
Use a VPN to dodge GST= up to $25,000 fine

Hmm, yes officer I did it to avoid copyright .........

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#1429082 16-Nov-2015 18:13

freitasm: What a crappy text. They managed to not mention Netflix by name even when quoting someone and when talking about Spark.

Journalism at worst.

Which article are you talking about?

The stuff one mentions Netflix in the very first paragraph and even has a Netflix image at the time of the page with a caption about Netflix.

And then the spark section says

"....campaigned for the change. Chief executive Simon Moutter has said it is unfair it has to charge GST on its subscription television service Lightbox, while overseas rivals such as Netflix did not."

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#1429084 16-Nov-2015 18:15

The Stuff article has been updated since it was first posted. I don't recall seeing Netflix mentioned by name when I first read it, and it certainly didn't have a line about its "no comment".

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#1429085 16-Nov-2015 18:16

NonprayingMantis:
freitasm: What a crappy text. They managed to not mention Netflix by name even when quoting someone and when talking about Spark.

Journalism at worst.

Which article are you talking about?

The stuff one mentions Netflix in the first paragraph and even has a Netflix image at the time of the page with a caption about Netflix.

I read it immediately after posted here. The highlithed bits below were missing:

"[Netflix'] Sydney-based spokesman Luke McClelland would not comment on whether the United States television company might absorb all or any of the 15 per cent charge"

"Spark is one of the companies that has campaigned for the change. Chief executive Simon Moutter has said it is unfair it has to charge GST on its subscription television service Lightbox, while overseas rivals such as [Netflix] did not."

These were added after.

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#1429191 16-Nov-2015 20:07

I can't possibly imagine a VPN provider in business for too long if people ended getting up being identified regardless of legitimate purpose or for avoiding geo blocking or for completely different reasons

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#1429202 16-Nov-2015 20:20

wellygary: Use a VPN to dodge copyright= OK
Use a VPN to dodge GST= up to $25,000 fine

Hmm, yes officer I did it to avoid copyright .........

Sigh.... it isn't about "avoiding copyright" or piracy. It's about parallel importing product that you have paid a legitimate reseller for, and bypassing pathetic NZ offerings with their high prices and limited range. No different to buying a book or a DVD off Amazon. Nothing is getting stolen. You are still paying for the product.

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#1429221 16-Nov-2015 20:44

khull: I can't possibly imagine a VPN provider in business for too long if people ended getting up being identified regardless of legitimate purpose or for avoiding geo blocking or for completely different reasons

Perhaps the VPN/Geo unblocking providers will be the first to cease selling services in NZ?

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#1429237 16-Nov-2015 21:12

wsnz:
khull: I can't possibly imagine a VPN provider in business for too long if people ended getting up being identified regardless of legitimate purpose or for avoiding geo blocking or for completely different reasons

Perhaps the VPN/Geo unblocking providers will be the first to cease selling services in NZ?

Perhaps. There will be a little North Korea in all of us

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#1429260 16-Nov-2015 21:51

I wonder whether Amazon uk will be removing the VAT and then adding GST, or just adding GST on top...

Wont change my buying practices in the slightest though...

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#1429269 16-Nov-2015 22:33

How will the people that are paying Netflix USA pay GST. I hardly think you could b ring up the IRD and tell then you want to pay GST on each months payments

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