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#839243 19-Jun-2013 12:24

I bet it will be someone like vodafone doing a data free stream and some iphone app to get customers lol

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#839244 19-Jun-2013 12:24

sdav:
Jas777: The biggest issue I have with this is that I just know that the picture quality for a lot of viewers is going to be sub standard, even if it is offered in HD. You can just imagine what it is going to be like when heavy internet usage occurs.

And also the fact that a lot of people don't use the net to stream and if they have too then will add extra costs not just the cost to stream but to get extra data.

And I for one don't think the individual sports model will make users the savings they expect.

I read a telco is in negotiations to broadcast the games. This is the bit that worries me. If it's like telecom, vodafone, 2d etc and they go down the contract route I think it will struggle. It's only one sport and to pull people in to contracts for one sport I just do not think it will work. Im excited for the press conference at 2pm though.

if it's a deal with Telecom, Telstra or Vodafone, then they won't be seeing a cent from me.

I will find other means.

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#839246 19-Jun-2013 12:24

crackrdbycracku:
NonprayingMantis: streaming of some content can work really well - Netflix type stuff for example, but I think the speed of movement of soccer and the small size of the ball will make it a much worse experience.

But the people who bought the rights, for a few million, must know that and think they can make money ... so they would have a fix in mind, right?

you are a 'glass half full' kind of a guy aren't you? :P

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#839248 19-Jun-2013 12:25

Kopkiwi:
sdav:
Jas777: The biggest issue I have with this is that I just know that the picture quality for a lot of viewers is going to be sub standard, even if it is offered in HD. You can just imagine what it is going to be like when heavy internet usage occurs.

And also the fact that a lot of people don't use the net to stream and if they have too then will add extra costs not just the cost to stream but to get extra data.

And I for one don't think the individual sports model will make users the savings they expect.

I read a telco is in negotiations to broadcast the games. This is the bit that worries me. If it's like telecom, vodafone, 2d etc and they go down the contract route I think it will struggle. It's only one sport and to pull people in to contracts for one sport I just do not think it will work. Im excited for the press conference at 2pm though.

if it's a deal with Telecom, Telstra or Vodafone, then they won't be seeing a cent from me.

I will find other means.

lol

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#839250 19-Jun-2013 12:28

NonPrayingMantis,

I agree about sports looking bad unless in HD. You only have to watch the Sommet sports test transmission to see how bad the picture quality is especially in wide shots.

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#839257 19-Jun-2013 12:39

Jas777: NonPrayingMantis,

I agree about sports looking bad unless in HD. You only have to watch the Sommet sports test transmission to see how bad the picture quality is especially in wide shots.

its not just the fact that it is SD (SD was what everyone had for years on normal TV and it was watchable) it's more the video compression required to put it over the internet just makes it a little too blocky and hard to see the ball.

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#839261 19-Jun-2013 12:44

NonprayingMantis:
Jas777: NonPrayingMantis,

I agree about sports looking bad unless in HD. You only have to watch the Sommet sports test transmission to see how bad the picture quality is especially in wide shots.

its not just the fact that it is SD (SD was what everyone had for years on normal TV and it was watchable) it's more the video compression required to put it over the internet just makes it a little too blocky and hard to see the ball.

"Over the internet" doesn't have to mean low quality. The quality of NFL Game Pass for example is very high.

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#839285 19-Jun-2013 12:58

Sphrye,

That is true, however it does depend a lot on the internet connection you have and what time of the day you use it. And it will mean a increase in GB to see. A mate did a quick calcualtion and he reckons if the $180 is true plus the increase in GB he would have to pay $400 a year to watch the EPL.

Would you pay that for 1 or 2 games a week?

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#839286 19-Jun-2013 12:59

"Over the internet" doesn't have to mean low quality. The quality of NFL Game Pass for example is very high.

I was just about to say this. The NFL stream on Gamepass is great. I watch it on my android phone, laptop or if I want I can stream it to my TV using Airplay.

The internet can deliver great quality video what will be interesting is how they get it onto the TV.

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#839295 19-Jun-2013 13:03

TVNZ to be the free to air partner apparently

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#839297 19-Jun-2013 13:06

BigMal

That is great but what do you think say a All Blacks test will be like if 300,000 tried to access it at the same time rather than the 5,000 or so accessing NFL gamepass

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#839305 19-Jun-2013 13:16

I really do hope it's not TVNZ, nor for that matter TV3. They have problems scheduling regular programmes let alone live sport events. I would hate to get up for a live game only for them to have changed their mind and playing a repeat of Shortland Street.

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#839314 19-Jun-2013 13:25

Jas777: BigMal

That is great but what do you think say a All Blacks test will be like if 300,000 tried to access it at the same time rather than the 5,000 or so accessing NFL gamepass

Just ask anyone who tries to use iSky what happens at the moment when a test is on. Unwatchable would be the term I would use. I am sure there is a decent CDN out there that can deliver those numbers though.

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#839344 19-Jun-2013 13:57

http://premierleaguepass.com/

all 380 games live. 250 of them on demand options.

"Every match of the English Premier League Live in New Zealand for the first time.
Access on desktops, laptops, smartphones and tablets, easily connected to your TV.
Broadcast quality resolution with adaptive streaming to suit your internet connection.
Watch up to four games simultaneously with multiple viewing modes."

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#839345 19-Jun-2013 13:58

It's not really fair to compare iSky, which is terrible, to a decent streaming service which utilises CDN and should be more than capable of handling those numbers

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions @Jas777, have you ever used any streaming services? Peak time congestion should be a thing of the past now. Coupled with the fact that you should be able to stream on demand means that no everyone is going to jump on at the same time, however a CDN should negate this so is a moot point.

I would relax and stop speculating as no one knows what's happening yet.

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