2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2699125 28-Apr-2021 10:21

cshwone:

No NHI number, no vaccine. You are tracked through the process using the new database which needs identifying data to register you. I would imagine for overstayers without an NHI they will have to clearly identify as such to get the vaccine

I suspect that there will be lots of overstayers (and others not wanting to be tracked) getting a second NHI when they get the vaccine. That's going to be problematic later when trying to identify who hasn't been vaccinated.

(It's not uncommon for people to have two NHIs (e.g. if you arrive unconscious and not positively identified at ED you're given a new NHI). Some people use a second identity and NHI to get multiple prescriptions, or to conceal illnesses. A few people have 3 NHIs, but I never found anyone with more than that. Where they're known to relate to a single person, the multiple NHIs are linked together in health systems).

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#2699132 28-Apr-2021 10:26

I'm not losing any sleep over the vaccination rollout. I'm less interested in what order the population are vaccinated in from this point forward and more interested that we just keep vaccinating people who will present themselves. If for any reason you get a phone call offering the shot just make a time to get it. I'm officially Group 4 so at the end and I'm fine with that. In all honesty I'd rather not have to have it at all but there is no good reason why I can't have it so when my phone rang I just thought 'sooner than expected' but just have it. I've had the first shot and waiting for the second. 30 minutes in and out and 20 of that was waiting afterwards (possible reaction check). Very streamlined professional operation. Very mild arm ache localised at the injection site (nothing for the first few hours and gone within 24). I'm a close contact of someone (Military) caught up in MIQ and could have said no but thought a 'yes' was probably the better option.

The gradual vaccination build up is good to my mind. Important not to run out of doses and have the whole thing grind to a halt.

People that actively choose to not get the jab. Too Bad. I don't care. If they should happen to get Covid down the track it will most likely be worse for them.

On the other hand people that can't for medical reasons, and our children - that's a different thing.

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#2699145 28-Apr-2021 11:10

Saving grace with the vaccination stuff is that (aside from people with close links to the border & medical front liners) New Zealand has the luxury that the sequencing of vaccination isn't really important at all.

This isn't the case in many parts of the world, where for elderly especially getting vaccinated has materially changes your odds of living through the year. Sister in law has had 10 covid-19 cases in her apartment building over the last week... And she isn't even in a "very high risk" location....

What is important to NZ is having the roll out finished as quickly as possible as to get herd immunity, and minimizing wastage of doses (there is a global shortage, so anything we waste mean others are missing out overseas).

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#2699237 28-Apr-2021 13:33

Todays thing that really annoys me. Get a confirmation my 2nd Jab is booked. Time is unsuitable, so I scour the email looking for a link to change it. Nope, says call the 0800 number! In 2021. Not only that, but 11 minutes to make a simple date change!

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#2699242 28-Apr-2021 13:43

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Todays thing that really annoys me. Get a confirmation my 2nd Jab is booked. Time is unsuitable, so I scour the email looking for a link to change it. Nope, says call the 0800 number! In 2021. Not only that, but 11 minutes to make a simple date change!

Apparently when the booking system is fully rolled out users will have flexibility to modify appointments etc

Question: "With the booking system that you were talking about, how flexible is it going to be. Because let's say I book and then have a sick kid, I want to change the location or I'm away from work Can you do that and will a lot of people will be able to access it and make changes all at the same time?

Answer: "Well, certainly in terms of how many people will be able to use the system simultaneously. We will ensure that it's got sufficient capacity to deal with what we anticipate will be significant load. In terms of flexibility, absolutely. One of the things that we've learned from overseas is that you've got to provide people with the experience, and that is right from essentially registering, through booking, through getting the vaccination itself. And that includes the flexibility to change certain things will pop up. And the system has to do it. Absolutely it will."

https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/media/covid-19_vaccine_background_media_panel-15_april21-transcript.docx

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#2699244 28-Apr-2021 13:48

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networkn:

Todays thing that really annoys me. Get a confirmation my 2nd Jab is booked. Time is unsuitable, so I scour the email looking for a link to change it. Nope, says call the 0800 number! In 2021. Not only that, but 11 minutes to make a simple date change!

Apparently when the booking system is fully rolled out users will have flexibility to modify appointments etc

Question: "With the booking system that you were talking about, how flexible is it going to be. Because let's say I book and then have a sick kid, I want to change the location or I'm away from work Can you do that and will a lot of people will be able to access it and make changes all at the same time?

Answer: "Well, certainly in terms of how many people will be able to use the system simultaneously. We will ensure that it's got sufficient capacity to deal with what we anticipate will be significant load. In terms of flexibility, absolutely. One of the things that we've learned from overseas is that you've got to provide people with the experience, and that is right from essentially registering, through booking, through getting the vaccination itself. And that includes the flexibility to change certain things will pop up. And the system has to do it. Absolutely it will."

https://www.health.govt.nz/system/files/documents/media/covid-19_vaccine_background_media_panel-15_april21-transcript.docx

LOL when it's fully rolled out? How much longer will they wait? Covid Lockdown in NZ was March last year. They have known vaccinations were going to be a thing since then. Vaccination program started 6 weeks ago!

I was able to rebook my first appointment without calling someone.

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#2699246 28-Apr-2021 14:14

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LOL when it's fully rolled out? How much longer will they wait? Covid Lockdown in NZ was March last year. They have known vaccinations were going to be a thing since then. Vaccination program started 6 weeks ago!

To be fair, in March last year vaccinations looked to be a couple of years (or more) away. But certainly since October it's been very clear that we would need a vaccination program tout suite.

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#2699264 28-Apr-2021 16:10

Regarding the northland over 50's vaccination thing, below is a first person account (via reddit) of somebody getting vaccinated yesterday. 2hr 20min wait which is not bad for so early in the opening up.

"I was there and got the jab at Okara Park yesterday (I'm 54 and live in Kaiwaka). One of the things is that being a thinly spread rural area, it's hard to get older people in in large numbers (they often have mobility issues and need support people to help them anyway). So, given a lot of travel is involved for everyone, doing things in bigger batches just makes sense.

There is priority queuing happening; although the booking system wasn't really operational for yesterday, there were a few people pre-booked who got priority and the staff at the site were pulling anyone significantly older or with mobility issues out of the main queue and putting them into a priority queue, so it was being run sensibly.

For reference our household was there in the queue at the door opening at midday and it took until about 2:20pm to actually get through the line and receive our doses - the actual capacity limitation for getting people through is due to the need for 20 minutes observation after receiving the dose, the whole process of getting the dose itself was a minute."

Will be interesting to hear how the vaccination centers held up today with the greater media attention.

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#2699300 28-Apr-2021 17:56

Our vaccination program I think is going to hold up NZ returning to normal, when compared to other countries, which is ironic considering we eliminated it. The US for example is slowly returning to normal, but in a new socially distanced world, which will be interesting how long social distancing and mask wearing lasts, or it is here to stay to a certain degree eg on public transport. The fact is however, that once a percentage of the population is vaccinated, the borders will reopen and Covid will be let in. The main reason we took the current approach of elimination, is because we didn't have the health system to cope with covid, unlike other countries in Europe for example. But we have seen in India how a health system can be overwhelmed, and that could have happened in NZ if we hadn't done what we did. But IMO unless we improve our health system before the border reopens, and have the ICU bed capacity without affecting other health services, IMO we are at risk if the virus mutates and the vaccination loses it's effectiveness. Already it is a unknown as to whether it is effective against some mutations.

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#2699301 28-Apr-2021 18:00

mattwnz: But IMO unless we improve our health system before the border reopens, and have the ICU bed capacity without affecting other health services

That will never happen. There isn't the funding or the people, unless you source them offshore.

Catch 22 really.

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#2699409 29-Apr-2021 07:28

I dont get this

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300287042/new-zealand-could-be-invited-to-join-travel-bubble-with-hong-kong-singapore

We must be too busy to have talks with Hong Kong and Singapore, because we are still working on bubbles with Cook Islands and Niue.

We don't have a bubble with the Cooks or Niue, not until its safe. But they can come here MIQ free, so I assume NZ is safe, but not back there as those two locations are not safe? Australia must be safer as we have a bubble with them, and yet Perth had issues hours later

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#2699410 29-Apr-2021 07:44

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We don't have a bubble with the Cooks or Niue, not until its safe. But they can come here MIQ free, so I assume NZ is safe, but not back there as those two locations are not safe? Australia must be safer as we have a bubble with them, and yet Perth had issues hours later

We don't have a bubble with the Cooks because they don't have a lab that can do PCR tests and NZ is not satisfied their contract tracing is up to scratch. NZ currently working with them to provide those. Similar presumably with Niue. Sorry, don't have link. Was on TV news a few days ago.

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#2699411 29-Apr-2021 07:53

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We don't have a bubble with the Cooks because they don't have a lab that can do PCR tests and NZ is not satisfied their contract tracing is up to scratch. NZ currently working with them to provide those. Similar presumably with Niue. Sorry, don't have link. Was on TV news a few days ago.

Thanks for that.

With the two populations of 17,000 and 1700, it hardly seems a huge task to get them ready? Its like one small town and one suburb

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#2699412 29-Apr-2021 07:58

tdgeek:

I dont get this

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/300287042/new-zealand-could-be-invited-to-join-travel-bubble-with-hong-kong-singapore

We must be too busy to have talks with Hong Kong and Singapore, because we are still working on bubbles with Cook Islands and Niue.

We don't have a bubble with the Cooks or Niue, not until its safe. But they can come here MIQ free, so I assume NZ is safe, but not back there as those two locations are not safe? Australia must be safer as we have a bubble with them, and yet Perth had issues hours later

HK and SG were not and are not eliminating Covid, they have learnt to exist with Covid. They have community cases every day. Definitions of CT might differ from NZ.

My guess is that this is too complicated for NZ / AU to think about

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#2699414 29-Apr-2021 08:10

Batman:

HK and SG were not and are not eliminating Covid, they have learnt to exist with Covid. They have community cases every day.

My guess is that this is too complicated for NZ / AU to think about

Bloomberg

Singapore has overtaken New Zealand and is now rated number one due to the fast speed at which it has rolled out the Covid-19 vaccine and due to having virtually no local transmission.

Hong Kong not as good but still low, and they need to be fully vaccinated to travel to Singapore

Too complicated? Probably. Not as complicated as importing it daily though

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