2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2732762 22-Jun-2021 17:04

Fred99:

Yep - that's not looking good. Gladys Berejiklian will be very reluctant to lock down. ABC news here:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/nsw-records-10-cases-bondi-covid-19-cluster-grows-to-21/100233266

VIC would have announced a lockdown by now...

Although pretty much all ( I think bar one) are close/household contacts of existing cases and they were already in isolation....

The thing that is worrying NSW the most is that the testing numbers aren't high enough...

If VIC/WA/QLD move to some form of closed border with NSW I think NZ will follow fairly quickly

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#2732763 22-Jun-2021 17:04

Fred99:

Yep - that's not looking good. Gladys Berejiklian will be very reluctant to lock down. ABC news here:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-22/nsw-records-10-cases-bondi-covid-19-cluster-grows-to-21/100233266

VIC would have announced a lockdown by now...

Although pretty much all ( I think bar one) are close/household contacts of existing cases and they were already in isolation....

The thing that is worrying NSW the most is that the testing numbers aren't high enough...

If VIC/WA/QLD move to some form of closed border with NSW I think NZ will follow fairly quickly

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#2732772 22-Jun-2021 17:15

wellygary:

VIC would have announced a lockdown by now...

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6149948092001

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#2732800 22-Jun-2021 19:12

Travel bubble= travel trouble.

Giving developments across the (why is it still open?!) ditch, it’s now a case of when, not if.

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#2732808 22-Jun-2021 19:40

dafman:

Travel bubble= travel trouble.

Giving developments across the (why is it still open?!) ditch, it’s now a case of when, not if.

Humans are learning to live with the virus. Opening was the first step of a long learning process. Remaining closed up would have meant there would be no learning on how to move forward. Why is it still open - the politicians are learning.

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#2732810 22-Jun-2021 19:49

Batman:

wellygary:

VIC would have announced a lockdown by now...

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6149948092001

This is a bit like asking Phil Goff about the wellington weather :)

"says Sky News contributor Nicholas Reece."

Cr Nicholas Reece was elected Deputy Lord Mayor (of Melbourne) in November 2020, after having previously been elected Councillor in the City of Melbourne in 2016.

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#2732812 22-Jun-2021 19:59

Batman:

Humans are learning to live with the virus. Opening was the first step of a long learning process. Remaining closed up would have meant there would be no learning on how to move forward. Why is it still open - the politicians are learning.

I’d rather we learnt after vaccinating, not before, that’s all.

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#2732817 22-Jun-2021 20:32

The biggest concern about NSW is the low vaccination numbers - they're still on 20.74% who have had at least their 1st dose, whereas Victoria is now up to 27.38% (and ACT, NT and TAS well into the 30s) and we know that many of these people will have had AZ which only offers moderate protection against the Delta variant after only a single jab.

On the other hand 20% is still enough to offer some level of protection in the community, and is still significantly higher than NZ. I know many people are only focused on 2nd jab numbers but the reality is a single jab does offers a vastly higher level of protection against Covid compared to no jab.

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#2732821 22-Jun-2021 20:46

dafman:

Batman:

Humans are learning to live with the virus. Opening was the first step of a long learning process. Remaining closed up would have meant there would be no learning on how to move forward. Why is it still open - the politicians are learning.

I’d rather we learnt after vaccinating, not before, that’s all.

tell those running the country. they would have consulted their modellers and their scientists. maybe they know they won't vaccinate everyone (eg some too young some too sick some refuse), etc etc

or maybe you are right

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#2732829 22-Jun-2021 20:55

"New Zealand’s Quarantine Free Travel from New South Wales to New Zealand will be paused while the source of infection of new cases announced in Sydney is investigated, says COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins."

Posting the release in the bubble travel thread.

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#2732831 22-Jun-2021 20:58

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so now "scientists" say it's definitely the other way round

You mean "two random gimps no-one has ever heard of say it's definitely the other way round". In particular it's an astrophysicist and the owner of some pharmaceuticals company, obviously world authorities on coronaviruses.

i have no idea. if you are interested ->

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-study-by-dr-steven-quay-concludes-that-sars-cov-2-came-from-a-laboratory-301217952.html

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184

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#2732844 22-Jun-2021 22:09

freitasm: "New Zealand’s Quarantine Free Travel from New South Wales to New Zealand will be paused while the source of infection of new cases announced in Sydney is investigated, says COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins."

And quite by coincidence tonights SYD-WLG flight (NZ248) which was scheduled to land at 5 minutes past midnight is now scheduled to land at 11:30pm tonight.

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#2732847 22-Jun-2021 22:35

That may well be the favored winds working.

But the multiple people asked by three this evening who had all just landed and purposely bought flights forward to not be stuck aren't coincidental.

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#2732851 22-Jun-2021 22:53

Batman:

tell those running the country. they would have consulted their modellers and their scientists. maybe they know they won't vaccinate everyone (eg some too young some too sick some refuse), etc etc

or maybe you are right

I think you mean those that place todays economics ahead of tomorrows health and economics.

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#2732852 22-Jun-2021 22:56

Oblivian: That may well be the favored winds working.

But the multiple people asked by three this evening who had all just landed and purposely bought flights forward to not be stuck aren't coincidental.

They need to make issues like this retrospective. A 5 minutes before flight is safe enough and a 5 minutes after the hour fight is unsafe is obviously not right. I guess that's due to law, but....

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