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Fred99
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  #2733028 23-Jun-2021 11:24
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Conspiracy theories about the "laboratory" origin of C-19 are politically-driven and unprovable / without evidence.

 

 




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  #2733029 23-Jun-2021 11:26
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I am waiting for Hipkins to go into political damage control and Ardern to pull a Helen Clarke and go away for a bit. I bet the Beehive phones are running hot with CEOs crying please don't lock down and place open the bubble.

 

At least I have finally had my first vaccine shot only two months late. I guess "we have got this" err screwed up.


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  #2733030 23-Jun-2021 11:26
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JPNZ:

 

freitasm:

 

COVID-19: Contact tracing locations of interest | Ministry of Health NZ

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So he was here till Monday yet we only have Saturdays list of locations? GG MOH

 

 

They need to advise locations before the information is made public - this is because of the outrage last year when they were making this public before advising the shop / cafe.

 

It's a situation of not really being able to win - if the MoH release it immediately again there will be backlash, and if they wait (like they are) there is backlash.

 

 




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  #2733031 23-Jun-2021 11:29
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Fred99:

 

Conspiracy theories about the "laboratory" origin of C-19 are politically-driven and unprovable / without evidence.

 

 

 

 

But amusing to poke fun at. 😀

 

I am disappointed though I had my first shot and spoons, keys and kittens are not sticking to me


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  #2733033 23-Jun-2021 11:32
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@Rikkitic:

 

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I don't have a phone, I can't scan, most places have stopped putting out sign-in sheets.

 

 

 

 

Can you explain why not? 

 

At least to have a device that would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to scan the QR codes.  For your own protection as well as others. 

 

No need to use as a phone. 

 

A basic Android phone including sim can cost a lot less than $100.  Two examples below (<$40 and <$70). 

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-c9-locked-sim-bundle-black/R2502405.html

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-e11-locked-bundle-16gb-4g-black/R2764767.html

 

They have Wifi so should require minimal mobile data use.  The phone doesn’t need to be connected to data to scan QR codes or use Bluetooth tracing (or for adding manual entries).


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  #2733034 23-Jun-2021 11:35
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sbiddle:

 

GV27:

 

How many flights were departing from Wellington to other places when they were at the airport? 

 

 

 

 

In the case of the departure time it would have been pretty minimal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

A weekday morning? Hardly minimal with about 15 flights departing in the hour prior to his departure


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  #2733035 23-Jun-2021 11:36
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Next headline:

 

... and in Breaking News...

 

Usage of the Covid Tracer is up, with a dramatic increase in the number of QR scans.


 
 
 

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  #2733053 23-Jun-2021 11:40
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msukiwi:

 

Next headline:

 

... and in Breaking News...

 

Usage of the Covid Tracer is up, with a dramatic increase in the number of QR scans.

 

 

You left out 'testing stations over-run/busy' by people lining up who have not been feeling well and thought nothing of it until now

 

/edit - about a minute later on the Herald update feed

 

 

Queues forming at testing site   A small queue of cars has formed at the Taranaki St testing station in Wellington.   A worker at the testing station said it was only accepting those with appointments.  
People should call 0800 714200 to make an appointment.

  3 more locations added. Turns out they've had 1 shot


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  #2733057 23-Jun-2021 11:50
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DS248:

 

Can you explain why not? 

 

At least to have a device that would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to scan the QR codes.  For your own protection as well as others. 

 

No need to use as a phone. 

 

A basic Android phone including sim can cost a lot less than $100.  Two examples below (<$40 and <$70). 

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-c9-locked-sim-bundle-black/R2502405.html

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-e11-locked-bundle-16gb-4g-black/R2764767.html

 

They have Wifi so should require minimal mobile data use.  The phone doesn’t need to be connected to data to scan QR codes or use Bluetooth tracing (or for adding manual entries).

 

 

Do you carry a first-aid kit on your person? If not, can you explain why? It would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to others who might get injured. For your own protection as well as others.

 

I don’t need to explain myself to you or anyone else. It is my choice. You might better ask why so many businesses are failing in their responsibility to put out sign-in sheets for people who don’t have phones. During the first Covid wave these were everywhere and I used them. Now they are hard to find. 

 

I don’t have a phone. I don’t use a phone. I don’t want a phone. I do keep a diary of my movements.

 

 

 

 





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  #2733064 23-Jun-2021 12:03
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Rikkitic:

 

I don’t have a phone. I don’t use a phone. I don’t want a phone. I do keep a diary of my movements.

 

 

This is an awesome take for a person who is posting on a website called Geekzone, but it's 100% fair enough. There will be many out there who have a distrust of big data who are similarly inclined towards not owning phones too.

 

The fact sign-in sheets are disappearing is a real issue tbh, although from my experience out at Hobsonville Pt, barely anyone signed in at the Saturday markets even when we were fresh out of higher alert levels - although I suspect that's a bit of upper-middle-class invincibility than anything else, and unlikely to be related to phone ownership.


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  #2733065 23-Jun-2021 12:05
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Was at work for 20 minutes this morning then sent home due to a number of people on my floor having been at one of the locations of interest. Wasn't there personally but sit near the people who were so being treated as the same. That was worth the train ride in.


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  #2733067 23-Jun-2021 12:06
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Rikkitic:

 

DS248:

 

Can you explain why not? 

 

At least to have a device that would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to scan the QR codes.  For your own protection as well as others. 

 

No need to use as a phone. 

 

A basic Android phone including sim can cost a lot less than $100.  Two examples below (<$40 and <$70). 

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-c9-locked-sim-bundle-black/R2502405.html

 

https://www.thewarehouse.co.nz/p/vodafone-smart-e11-locked-bundle-16gb-4g-black/R2764767.html

 

They have Wifi so should require minimal mobile data use.  The phone doesn’t need to be connected to data to scan QR codes or use Bluetooth tracing (or for adding manual entries).

 

 

Do you carry a first-aid kit on your person? If not, can you explain why? It would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to others who might get injured.

 

...

 

 

There's a global pandemic still lapping on our shores with increasingly virulent virus strains. 

 

Not patching someone with a minor injury that could be helped with a first aid kit is vastly different to not helping to limit potential spread of the virus here and reducing the risk of another regional lockdown.

 

 


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  #2733071 23-Jun-2021 12:16
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I'll be the first to critisise people who don't use the tracer app because they can't be bothered, but it's important to remember that not everyone has the skills required to use the technology. 


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  #2733075 23-Jun-2021 12:20
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Rikkitic:

 

 

 

Do you carry a first-aid kit on your person? If not, can you explain why? It would allow you to fulfil your responsibility to others who might get injured. For your own protection as well as others.

 

I don’t need to explain myself to you or anyone else. It is my choice. You might better ask why so many businesses are failing in their responsibility to put out sign-in sheets for people who don’t have phones. During the first Covid wave these were everywhere and I used them. Now they are hard to find. 

 

I don’t have a phone. I don’t use a phone. I don’t want a phone. I do keep a diary of my movements.

 

 

 

 

Oddly we do carry a first aid kit in our vehicles and in the back pack I go out with. We are also going to buy a defib unit for our home and office.

 

Using the App means that you will be alerted to a risk quicker and can then mitigate the risk for others but it is a personal choice and one you don't need to justify to anyone but yourself,


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  #2733086 23-Jun-2021 12:43
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Emergency Cabinet meeting underway.

 

 

 

Hard to assume anything else than an alert level change for Welly


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