Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 1493 | 1494 | 1495 | 1496 | 1497 | 1498 | 1499 | 1500 | 1501 | 1502 | 1503 | ... | 2422
Batman

Mad Scientist
29760 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755335 5-Aug-2021 06:05
Send private message quote this post

Boltigzone:

 

Batman:

 

 

 

slight misread :)

 

"Experts say that vaccination makes it less likely that you'll catch Covid-19 in the first place -- but for those who do, this data suggests they could have a similar tendency to spread it as unvaccinated folks."

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/30/health/breakthrough-infection-masks-cdc-provincetown-study/index.html 

 

 

 

 

 

 

still there are high numbers of vaccinated getting infected and spreading. This is why they are now saying that even if you are vaccinated you should still wear a mask.

 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/health/covid-cdc-delta-masks.html 

 

There are roughly 35,000 symptomatic infections per week among 162 million vaccinated Americans, according to data collected by the C.D.C. as of July 24 that was cited in the internal presentation. 

 

Detailed analysis of the spread of cases showed that people infected with Delta carry enormous amounts of virus in their nose and throat, regardless of vaccination status, according to the C.D.C. document.

 

 

 

This brings me back to my first post, the vaccine needs to updated for the delta variant, 65 - 85 percent or what ever it is, is not sufficient to get the pandemic under control.

 

 

@Boltigzone

 

bad move. you are quietly changing the topic. you said "why is it that you and others still think that only the unvaccinated are the ones spreading the virus ? Its make no difference if you are vaccinated or not the Delta strain still spreads". you can't do that in an online forum.

 

well it turns out it makes a lot of difference it seems.

 

 

 

2. you are saying that vaccine works 65% of the time but you won't take it. why not? i'm actually curious. if you were told you have a 65-85%% chance of getting a free house in akl if you eat a loaf of mouldy bread/smoke a cigaratte/swallow a cockroach/taste a teaspoon of cat vomit/poke yourself with a rusty nail/smell bus fumes for a day/jump into a pool of cow dung - would you do it?

 

you seem to be saying 65% is not good enough. do you buy insurance? you better tell me you don't buy insurance because there is a 99% chance the insurer will take all your money and leave you a million dollars short when you die. you better have a good excuse to buy insurance.




Ge0rge
2052 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755336 5-Aug-2021 06:24
Send private message quote this post

Batman:

meanwhile border restrictions don't apply to billionaires https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300373505/google-billionaire-larry-page-travelled-to-nz-amid-covid-border-restrictions


 



More clickbait crqp from stuff.

"Man and child obtain emergency exemption for medical reasons" just doesn't have the same sensationalism really, despite being what actually happened.

These exemptions are granted much more regularly than most would probably realise, but our media couldn't care less when it isn't someone "famous".

cshwone
1070 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755340 5-Aug-2021 06:43
Send private message quote this post

Ge0rge:
Batman:

 

meanwhile border restrictions don't apply to billionaires https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300373505/google-billionaire-larry-page-travelled-to-nz-amid-covid-border-restrictions

 

 

 

 

 



More clickbait crqp from stuff.

"Man and child obtain emergency exemption for medical reasons" just doesn't have the same sensationalism really, despite being what actually happened.

These exemptions are granted much more regularly than most would probably realise, but our media couldn't care less when it isn't someone "famous".

 

 

 

Indeed, at the end of the article:

 

 

 

The Immigration NZ website says people requesting travel to New Zealand for medical treatment must obtain approval from the Ministry of Health or a District Health Board (DHB).

 

A Ministry of Health spokesman said it would not comment about individual patients, again citing privacy.

 

In a statement, the spokesman said anyone accepted for treatment from a medevac flight by definition required immediate treatment, and therefore do not undergo managed isolation.

 

In the year ending June 30, 99 patients had been accepted for medical treatment via medevac flights. The majority of those were people living in the Pacific Islands, the ministry spokesman said.




Batman

Mad Scientist
29760 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755401 5-Aug-2021 07:54
Send private message quote this post

Ge0rge:
Batman:

 

meanwhile border restrictions don't apply to billionaires https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300373505/google-billionaire-larry-page-travelled-to-nz-amid-covid-border-restrictions

 

 

 

 

 



More clickbait crqp from stuff.

"Man and child obtain emergency exemption for medical reasons" just doesn't have the same sensationalism really, despite being what actually happened.

These exemptions are granted much more regularly than most would probably realise, but our media couldn't care less when it isn't someone "famous".

 

sorry i read half the article and didn't see this


Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755410 5-Aug-2021 08:34
Send private message quote this post

Ge0rge :

These exemptions are granted much more regularly than most would probably realise, but our media couldn't care less when it isn't someone "famous".

 

They should care though if exemptions aren't easily obtained by NZ citizens/residents, but appear to be granted to (presumably) non-resident billionaires.

 

 


freitasm
BDFL - Memuneh
79250 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
ID Verified
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755411 5-Aug-2021 08:36
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

Ge0rge :

These exemptions are granted much more regularly than most would probably realise, but our media couldn't care less when it isn't someone "famous".

 

They should care though if exemptions aren't easily obtained by NZ citizens/residents, but appear to be granted to (presumably) non-resident billionaires.

 

 

It was a medical evacuation. It would have been granted to non-resident poor people too.





Please support Geekzone by subscribing, or using one of our referral links: Samsung | AliExpress | Wise | Sharesies | Hatch | GoodSyncBackblaze backup


tdgeek
29740 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755413 5-Aug-2021 08:40
Send private message quote this post

As quoted above "In the year ending June 30, 99 patients had been accepted for medical treatment via medevac flights."

 

None were *aires so not newsworthy


 
 
 

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.
Oblivian
7296 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

  #2755414 5-Aug-2021 08:44
Send private message quote this post

Herald is at it again with a headline that is bound to freak everyone out and do the rounds. News.com.au repeat of simulated /potential/ breakdown of the changes in Delta and worst case scenario. (it mentions 600x as bad)

 

I won't link it. Someone else is likely do as at face value it looks shocking. But when you read, it is just reinforcing. Sitting on the fence is a bad idea. And action to advance the slow-down of it needs to start now. Ala, keep them arm sleeves rolling and don't slack off. Because if the simulations progress it's a likely catalyst that we won't get ahead of.


Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755415 5-Aug-2021 08:44
Send private message quote this post

freitasm:

 

It was a medical evacuation. It would have been granted to non-resident poor people too.

 

 

...if they'd somehow managed to find some way to get on a medevac flight.

 

 


Rikkitic
Awrrr
18657 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2755488 5-Aug-2021 09:07
Send private message quote this post

I was glad to get my vaccination early. I didn't push anyone aside. The place I went was taking all comers in my age group. I understand hesitancy in the sense that I understand some people aren't convinced for whatever reason. What I don't understand, is the logic of people accepting the idea in principle, but putting it off as long as possible. That just doesn't make sense to me. If there is even a tiny chance (and it is way more than that) that I could be seriously disabled for life or even die, and vaccination would reduce the chance of that, I would be knocking over tables and chairs to get that vaccination as soon as possible. Why play Russian roulette with it? If I need a booster later, I'm sure that will be made available. In the meantime, I have at least reduced the chance of becoming another statistic. It seems a no-brainer to me.

 

 





Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


Ge0rge
2052 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2755495 5-Aug-2021 09:15
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

freitasm:


It was a medical evacuation. It would have been granted to non-resident poor people too.



...if they'd somehow managed to find some way to get on a medevac flight.


 



Which they have been, nearly 100 times as reported above. I feel as if you've brought into the media's hook of "billionaire gets special treatment", however from where my workstation sits, I can see clearly that is absolutely not what happened here.

Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755498 5-Aug-2021 09:31
Send private message quote this post

Ge0rge:

Which they have been, nearly 100 times as reported above. I feel as if you've brought into the media's hook of "billionaire gets special treatment", however from where my workstation sits, I can see clearly that is absolutely not what happened here.

 

Maybe you and I have a different interpretation of what a "poor person" is.  The way I see it, "poor people" don't get on medevac flights anyway, so the situation with MIQ exemption is purely hypothetical. That was my point.


Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755505 5-Aug-2021 09:53
Send private message quote this post

Oblivian:

 

Herald is at it again with a headline that is bound to freak everyone out and do the rounds. News.com.au repeat of simulated /potential/ breakdown of the changes in Delta and worst case scenario. (it mentions 600x as bad)

 

 

Well the "600x" bit is sensational - implying we're in for some dystopian end of times scenario.

 

Here's a recent comment from Fauci in the US:

 

 

“If we don’t crush the outbreak to the point of getting the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated, then what will happen is the virus will continue to smolder through the fall into the winter, giving it ample chance to get a variant which, quite frankly, we’re very lucky that the vaccines that we have now do very well against the variants — particularly against severe illness,” Fauci said. “We’re very fortunate that that’s the case. There could be a variant that’s lingering out there that can push aside delta.”

 

“If another one comes along that has an equally high capability of transmitting but also is much more severe, then we could really be in trouble,” he said. “People who are not getting vaccinated mistakenly think it’s only about them. But it isn’t. It’s about everybody else, also.”

 

 

 

 

 


wellygary
8312 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755507 5-Aug-2021 09:55
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

freitasm:

 

It was a medical evacuation. It would have been granted to non-resident poor people too.

 

 

...if they'd somehow managed to find some way to get on a medevac flight.

 

 

There is no mention of a "medivac" flight, just that they came to NZ for medical treatment, 

 

They have a private Jet so the regular "thresholds" for a medivac don't really apply.

 

Page has been riding out COVID on a private island in Fiji for the last year or so, 

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/google-it-larry-page-rides-out-pandemic-on-fijian-island-7mtkw3hkz

 

 

 

 

 

 


Fred99
13684 posts

Uber Geek


  #2755539 5-Aug-2021 10:59
Send private message quote this post

The US FDA is rumoured to be granting full approval for the Pfizer vaccine as early as September.

 

NZ Medsafe provisional approval expires on 3 November, so that would be convenient as full approval would probably be relatively automatic and timely (ie rather then extending the provisional approval).

 

The private food processing company SPC in Australia has mandated vaccination for their factory workforce.  That's probably going to be challenged, but challenges are more likely to fail if the vaccine(s) have full approval.

 

The Biden administration is developing plans to require all foreign travelers to the United States to be vaccinated against Covid-19, with limited exceptions, according to an administration official with knowledge of the developing policy.

 

US is reporting highest new case numbers since January, about 100,000 a day.  Deaths are up markedly in states with low vaccination rates, for comparison 5 deaths in New York reported today, 140 deaths in Florida, 2,700 new cases vs 17,000 new cases respectively.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


1 | ... | 1493 | 1494 | 1495 | 1496 | 1497 | 1498 | 1499 | 1500 | 1501 | 1502 | 1503 | ... | 2422
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





News and reviews »

Air New Zealand Starts AI adoption with OpenAI
Posted 24-Jul-2025 16:00


eero Pro 7 Review
Posted 23-Jul-2025 12:07


BeeStation Plus Review
Posted 21-Jul-2025 14:21


eero Unveils New Wi-Fi 7 Products in New Zealand
Posted 21-Jul-2025 00:01


WiZ Introduces HDMI Sync Box and other Light Devices
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:32


RedShield Enhances DDoS and Bot Attack Protection
Posted 20-Jul-2025 17:26


Seagate Ships 30TB Drives
Posted 17-Jul-2025 11:24


Oclean AirPump A10 Water Flosser Review
Posted 13-Jul-2025 11:05


Samsung Galaxy Z Fold7: Raising the Bar for Smartphones
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Samsung Galaxy Z Flip7 Brings New Edge-To-Edge FlexWindow
Posted 10-Jul-2025 02:01


Epson Launches New AM-C550Z WorkForce Enterprise printer
Posted 9-Jul-2025 18:22


Samsung Releases Smart Monitor M9
Posted 9-Jul-2025 17:46


Nearly Half of Older Kiwis Still Write their Passwords on Paper
Posted 9-Jul-2025 08:42


D-Link 4G+ Cat6 Wi-Fi 6 DWR-933M Mobile Hotspot Review
Posted 1-Jul-2025 11:34


Oppo A5 Series Launches With New Levels of Durability
Posted 30-Jun-2025 10:15









Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.