2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2764329 21-Aug-2021 14:16

Would have been pretty hard for the person behind that phone call I imagine but it does sound like they need some training on how to deal with such callers.

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#2764332 21-Aug-2021 14:19

sbiddle:

This could be a long lockdown..

As you point out, it could have been much easier / probably shorter if people had been scanning/signing in.

I hope that after we eliminate / ringfence this outbreak (positive thinking), we do not drop back to level 1 (= de facto level 0).

Even if we manage to achieve high vaccination targets, we've been pre-warned that life will not be back to normal for "some time".

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#2764333 21-Aug-2021 14:20

Traffic increase past my place: (Low count Tuesday, as was set up that day!)

As at 2pm today 50% more than the whole of yesterday!

Interesting experiment!

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#2764334 21-Aug-2021 14:20

Three south Wellington LoI's now added to the list. But at least one (if not all three) presumably are ex one or more of the three new cases reported today; eg. given that the original Wellington cases should have been in quarantine at the time given for the Countdown Newtown exposure (8.05am-9.45am yesterday)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126131404/covid19-dental-centre-and-uni-campus-among-four-new-auckland-locations-of-interest

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#2764335 21-Aug-2021 14:20

mentalinc:

Can someone buy Jacinda a watch?

Its all part of the theatre.

Thats why you generally have to wait until 20 minutes into the presentation to find out the important stuff like level changes/extensions, etc.

If they walked in and said “Good afternoon, cabinet has decided that level restrictions for xxxx are extended until yyyy” and then went on to explain why most people would have already switched off.

That is why I check the web later. I’m sick of being ‘played’.

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#2764336 21-Aug-2021 14:20

Three new locations of interest have been named in Wellington:

• Pak N Save, Kilbirnie, Rongotai Road, Kilbirnie, Thursday 19 August, 11.40am - 12.55 pm
• Asian Food Specialist, Kilbirnie, Thursday 19 August, 4:45 pm - 6.00 pm
• Countdown Newtown, John St, Mt Cook, Friday 20 August, 8.05 am - 9.45 am.

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#2764342 21-Aug-2021 14:21

mentalinc:

Can someone buy Jacinda a watch?

IMO I think we are at the stage where things need updating throughout the day as numbers come in. It is not as though they don't have websites etc to do this. Waiting until 1pm, or after 1:30pm for a press release each day isn't very good IMO.

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#2764345 21-Aug-2021 14:26

How do you prove your credentials.
Whats the caller ID number on the contact tracers calls ?
I expect the callback number given is one that could be verified by looking up the NZ Covid website.

Well I suppose them only wanting you to get tested and no funny stuff is a good start !

Not asking you to log onto your computer and accept a remote access app etc would be a strong clue ?
Give them your bank account number or buy them google/amazon gift cards is probably a clue too ?
Talking about fines that they will wave for a certain under the table payment ?

I know in this day and age...

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#2764346 21-Aug-2021 14:29

msukiwi:

Traffic increase past my place: (Low count Tuesday, as was set up that day!)

As at 2pm today 50% more than the whole of yesterday!

Interesting experiment!

My guess is more people going to the supermarket, including essential workers that could not go during the weekday...

edit: my spelling is awful today

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#2764347 21-Aug-2021 14:30

msukiwi:
Traffic increase past my place: (Low count Tuesday, as was set up that day!)

As at 2pm today 50% more than the whole of yesterday!

Interesting experiment!

Today is the first day after hearing we were due to potentially be back open.

People are re-stocking. Supermarket are lines galore and full carparks.

Its all pretty expected

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#2764348 21-Aug-2021 14:31

Dingbatt:

mentalinc:

Can someone buy Jacinda a watch?

Its all part of the theatre.

Thats why you generally have to wait until 20 minutes into the presentation to find out the important stuff like level changes/extensions, etc.

If they walked in and said “Good afternoon, cabinet has decided that level restrictions for xxxx are extended until yyyy” and then went on to explain why most people would have already switched off.

That is why I check the web later. I’m sick of being ‘played’.

One thing NSW has got right is that NSW Health has all the case data ready to post live on twitter and seem to be able to hit the send button within a minute of the scheduled start of the pressers.

You may not like JA's pressers, but they're infinitely better than the Aussie ones, the NSW ones an incredibly dire example of lost souls (Berejiklian and Hazzard) telling their community how naughty they are, blame-shifting, dodging questions. Catastrophic consequences - I get the feeling that what people get from the whole debacle is that they're doomed. Put that on top of two failed months of lockdowns - it would do your head in.

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#2764350 21-Aug-2021 14:33

Dingbatt:

mentalinc:

Can someone buy Jacinda a watch?

Its all part of the theatre.

Thats why you generally have to wait until 20 minutes into the presentation to find out the important stuff like level changes/extensions, etc.

If they walked in and said “Good afternoon, cabinet has decided that level restrictions for xxxx are extended until yyyy” and then went on to explain why most people would have already switched off.

That is why I check the web later. I’m sick of being ‘played’.

I'm sick of all the self congratulatory stuff that goes on before we get any real information. Much prefer to read the relevant details afterwards.

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#2764352 21-Aug-2021 14:38

msukiwi:

Traffic increase past my place: (Low count Tuesday, as was set up that day!)

As at 2pm today 50% more than the whole of yesterday!

Interesting experiment!

I've got an ANPR camera setup outside our place.

Average detections per day for the 30days before lockdown 136.

Average detections per day since lockdown: 85.

Comparing this to the ~30 detections per day from the first level 4 lockdown last year, the people of west Auckland aren't taking this one quite so seriously

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#2764353 21-Aug-2021 14:39

Fred99:

825 new cases in NSW, 3 deaths.

516 in hospital, 85 in ICU, 29 on ventilators.

I understand that 2000 cases a day with Delta is when their health system runs out of capacity. They're about a week away from reaching that on present trajectory, maybe the system won't be overrun immediately, but cases in exceeding cases out, it's inevitable.

Similar population to NZ. This is where we must not end up

I understand Oz has better health capacity to deal with cases, they are just a richer country than NZ. I understand NZs health system runs at fully capacity most of the time. My issue is that we have known this for 18 months, but I am not sure how much has been done to increase NZs hospital and ICU capacity, because even after we are all vaccinated and open the country up, there are going to be cases and some deaths from it. That will need additional hospital capacity and ICU beds on top of what we already have. Due to the housing crisis many nurses etc are also leaving NZ as it is too expensive to rent and live here.

At the moment we seem to really have only one plan, that is to eliminate it. We can't deal with a widespread outbreak, whereas Australia have better capacity to do this. This is one reason I think the bubble and travelling during a pandemic was a bad idea before we were all vaccinated..

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#2764354 21-Aug-2021 14:40

Fred99:
You may not like JA's pressers, but they're infinitely better than the Aussie ones, the NSW ones an incredibly dire example of lost souls (Berejiklian and Hazzard) telling their community how naughty they are, blame-shifting, dodging questions. Catastrophic consequences - I get the feeling that what people get from the whole debacle is that they're doomed. Put that on top of two failed months of lockdowns - it would do your head in.

I watch the NSW ones to see who she's going to snap at or tell off today.

Doesn't know the meaning of short precise answers like our PM. Rambles on and repeats herself shifting blame

To the point I saw this recently. It's damn accurate

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