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  #2788723 3-Oct-2021 19:09
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andrew75:

 

 

 

Delta.  Much more infectious.

 

Elimination is dead. Its pointless.  Even if by some miracle we did reduce cases to zero, we'd invariably be back here again in another few months. And again. And again.

 

What needs to come now are lock-downs seeking to balance demands of not overloading the health system and doing as little damage is possible to the economy. 

 

The only way out of this is vaccination, but unfortunately there are plenty of nutters around who are going to make getting to a truly high level of vaccination coverage extremely difficult.

 

My prediction is level 3 continuing until the majority of the outstanding 2nd doses are given, then a reduction to a level 2.5, and then probably bouncing between 2.5 and 3 for the next 6-12 months.

 

And why hasn't Brian Tamaki been arrested yet?  Are they seriously going to let him get away with the nonsense that went on yesterday. He needs to be thrown behind bars for 6 months.

 

 

 

 

Fair enough, but its not a Delta issue. Obviously not helpful, but if you have compliance, you get a result, Delta extends that result. But the bottom line is piss poor compliance. And of the team of 1.7M in AKL its not them, its the families, households, neighbours that screwed it. You will always get that, but the volume this time around is huge. 

 

Im hopeful that Brian * gets called out by the media. Its super easy to arrest them all, but from a statute and human rights view, its probably not that easy




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  #2788724 3-Oct-2021 19:13
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the Police invited BT and the gangs to have a big party - I mean protest, why would they suddenly arrest him?


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  #2788725 3-Oct-2021 19:14
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mattwnz:

Level 3 is elimination.



You keep saying that. But that may have been 2020 values. If a value at all. And no longer the case.

It is restrict. Not eliminate.

At Alert Level 3, there is medium risk of community transmission with active, but managed, clusters. Make sure you follow all the public health rules to protect yourself, your whānau and our communities.


https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and-updates/about-the-alert-system/



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  #2788726 3-Oct-2021 19:14
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Batman:

 

the Police invited BT and the gangs to have a big party - I mean protest, why would they suddenly arrest him?

 

 

Can you pease get serious. Do you have a link to the party invite?


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  #2788727 3-Oct-2021 19:15
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heavenlywild: Honesty they can set boundaries but Delta doesn't care for boundaries.

It's like putting tape over wet paper... it's only a matter of time.

 

 

 

It's not Delta that doesn't care about borders it is selfish entitled morons that don't care about borders. Delta cannot travel without a carrier.





Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.


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  #2788728 3-Oct-2021 19:18
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Oblivian:

You keep saying that. But that may have been 2020 values. If a value at all. And no longer the case.

It is restrict. Not eliminate.

At Alert Level 3, there is medium risk of community transmission with active, but managed, clusters. Make sure you follow all the public health rules to protect yourself, your whānau and our communities.

https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and-updates/about-the-alert-system/

 

Agree. Many followed the bolded, but some have ended the fight.


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  #2788730 3-Oct-2021 19:20
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MikeB4:

 

heavenlywild: Honesty they can set boundaries but Delta doesn't care for boundaries.

It's like putting tape over wet paper... it's only a matter of time.

 

 

 

It's not Delta that doesn't care about borders it is selfish entitled morons that don't care about borders. Delta cannot travel without a carrier.

 

 

 

 

All flouters of the health orders, are IMO self entitled selfish people, no matter who they are. They have let NZ down badly.


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  #2788733 3-Oct-2021 19:38
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I found working during L4 this year was a lot more busier than last year on the roads and a lot more businesses seemed to find ways around the rules which allowed them to open.


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  #2788734 3-Oct-2021 19:41
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Outside of Auckland it is still worth fighting for. The Auckland border stays.

 

Auckland won't see zero again until the whole thing fizzles out (I suppose it will eventually).

 

Subject to vaccination rates there should soon be a proportional relaxation of restrictions in Auckland. 

 

 


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  #2788735 3-Oct-2021 19:41
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HelloThere:

 

I found working during L4 this year was a lot more busier than last year on the roads and a lot more businesses seemed to find ways around the rules which allowed them to open.

 

 

as i said at the start of lockdown, this year's level 4 is last year's level 3 but without takeaways.

 

even plastic factory was open as an essential service.


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  #2788739 3-Oct-2021 19:54
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andrew75: The only way out of this is vaccination, but unfortunately there are plenty of nutters around who are going to make getting to a truly high level of vaccination coverage extremely difficult

The number of total nutters is vanishingly small. Ignore them, they don't deserve any attention. We can easily get to 95% without worrying about the nutters.

The govt needs to explore all options to deliver the vaccine. Start to listen to established Maori and Pacific advisory people about what it will take.

Even at 95% there will be serious issues and challenges to overcome. Anyway, one thing at a time. Get to 95% and aim higher.

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  #2788740 3-Oct-2021 19:55
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Batman:

HelloThere:


I found working during L4 this year was a lot more busier than last year on the roads and a lot more businesses seemed to find ways around the rules which allowed them to open.



as i said at the start of lockdown, this year's level 4 is last year's level 3 but without takeaways.


even plastic factory was open as an essential service.



Yes. IMO this difference could have been a significant factor. Last years level 4 was far more of a lockdown with far more compliance. Not sure if there were any stats showing the difference of movements and traffic between this years level 4 and last year's version.

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  #2788745 3-Oct-2021 20:07
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mattwnz:

Yes. IMO this difference could have been a significant factor. Last years level 4 was far more of a lockdown with far more compliance. Not sure if there were any stats showing the difference of movements and traffic between this years level 4 and last year's version.

 

last year with less contagious variant, slower to become infectious, harsher lockdown, health minister got sacked for flout

 

this year with much more contagious variant, infectious within a day, slacker lockdown, and even slacker policing.

 

i'm fine with the way this turns out as the rest of the world has had this for the last 18 months.

 

what i find interesting is in that 18 months we didn't appear to have made any preparation.


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  #2788748 3-Oct-2021 20:13
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The number of total nutters is vanishingly small. Ignore them, they don't deserve any attention. We can easily get to 95% without worrying about the nutters.

 

 

 

 

 

True nutters yes, but the problem is they make plenty of noise and the hesitant pay attention to them.  I see it every day at work, its exhausting trying to turn them around.

 

There's also an awful lot of young people who don't see CV as something that they have to worry about, and haven't made the cognitive connection in their brains that even if they get it and recover fine, they will pass it on to 10 other people and that is what the real problem is, and that is ultimately going to result in something that does affect them.


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