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  #2793239 11-Oct-2021 13:44
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35 - while not great - is better than 60.




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  #2793241 11-Oct-2021 13:45
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Weekend testing numbers are usually always lower.

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  #2793245 11-Oct-2021 13:47
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I think we're going to be staying where we are while the pressing question now becomes whether we go up a level instead. 




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  #2793246 11-Oct-2021 13:50
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GV27:

I think we're going to be staying where we are while the pressing question now becomes whether we go up a level instead. 



I'm presuming you mean Auckland. If they were to go up a level it would have been done already. It's bonkers to wait till it seeds everywhere and grow umpteen hidden clusters and then decide to go up a level.

So I'm picking no, because it doesn't make sense.

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  #2793252 11-Oct-2021 14:00
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Batman:

I'm presuming you mean Auckland. If they were to go up a level it would have been done already. It's bonkers to wait till it seeds everywhere and grow umpteen hidden clusters and then decide to go up a level.

So I'm picking no, because it doesn't make sense.

 

Judging what we do next by what we've done previously doesn't make sense either - given how the three tiers came out of nowhere. 

 

We still have large numbers of cases infectious in the community. Agreed it has likely seeded everywhere, but moving down with things getting progressively worse (not just flat-lining at not-zero cases) doesn't make sense either. 

 

I can't see a move downwards as being on the cards either way. 


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  #2793265 11-Oct-2021 14:29
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I almost forgot their was an announcement today. I can't see anything moving, Waikato is probably still too early to move down to Level 2 but they may get L3 stage something? I think Northland is in the same boat as Waikato.





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  #2793266 11-Oct-2021 14:29
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mattwnz: Weekend testing numbers are usually always lower.

 

Yesterday was 60 though, highest in ages.


 
 
 

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  #2793269 11-Oct-2021 14:41
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Batman:
GV27:

 

I think we're going to be staying where we are while the pressing question now becomes whether we go up a level instead. 

 



I'm presuming you mean Auckland. If they were to go up a level it would have been done already. It's bonkers to wait till it seeds everywhere and grow umpteen hidden clusters and then decide to go up a level.

So I'm picking no, because it doesn't make sense.

 

Auckland is going no where this week.... The Big question will be about schools next monday (+ vaccine mandates for Healthcare and potentially teachers)

 

TBH, Auckland's progress now relies on Vax numbers... over the past week they have gone from 51-62% double dosed, if they ramp that up a bit they could potentially hit 75% double doses by next week...

 

Unfortunately you really need 2 weeks AFTER that to be effective...

 

If it was the government of old I would have said they will hold the course until then, but given the length of Auckland has already been locked down, I think they will promise greater freedom for Auckland from next week.

 

BUT

 

Its going to start to get really tricky because overall Vax numbers will start to look really good in Auckland, but some groups will still be not great... and the govt will have to balance the possibility of all the infections and hospitalisation occurring in low vax areas... as against the vaxxed majority wanting to get on with life..

 

 


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  #2793276 11-Oct-2021 15:12
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Apparently Portugal has reached 85% vaccination of the entire population. As 15% of NZs population can’t yet be vaccinated, we would need 100% eligible population to be vaccinated to reach that sort of level. The government hasn’t stated a figure but I think they want this sort of level without using sticks or carrots

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  #2793277 11-Oct-2021 15:13
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Mrs Duck shortened her delay between doses and got her 2nd jab on Sunday.  The vaccinator told her she had expected most 70+ people to have been done and dusted by now, but she's had a surprising number come in for their FIRST dose lately.  The reason they gave?  Vaccination passports.  Being locked out of doing things was the motivation they needed to overcome whatever it was holding them back.


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  #2793278 11-Oct-2021 15:14
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Batman:
GV27:

I think we're going to be staying where we are while the pressing question now becomes whether we go up a level instead. 



I'm presuming you mean Auckland. If they were to go up a level it would have been done already. It's bonkers to wait till it seeds everywhere and grow umpteen hidden clusters and then decide to go up a level.

So I'm picking no, because it doesn't make sense.


They may go up a level if cases go up too far, as a circuit breaker. They haven’t ruled it out. It maybe a level 3.5. They need to reduce the demand on the health system including normal accidents.

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  #2793279 11-Oct-2021 15:15
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mattwnz: Apparently Portugal has reached 85% vaccination of the entire population. As 15% of NZs population can’t yet be vaccinated, we would need 100% eligible population to be vaccinated to reach that sort of level. The government hasn’t stated a figure but I think they want this sort of level without using sticks or carrots

 

Covid is the stick and carrot

 

Vaccination ID at the trendy places is the carrot

 

 

 

Sydney has opened up to live with the virus at 70% (I assume that's eligibles) If you are unvaccinated you will be missing out on places to be and go


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  #2793283 11-Oct-2021 15:41
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mattwnz: Apparently Portugal has reached 85% vaccination of the entire population. As 15% of NZs population can’t yet be vaccinated, we would need 100% eligible population to be vaccinated to reach that sort of level. The government hasn’t stated a figure but I think they want this sort of level without using sticks or carrots

 

Europe have an slight advantage over NZ here is that many have a much older population skew than we do..

 

Portugal is about 15% under 15, NZ is about 20% .. Italy is 13%...

 

 

 

 


  #2793287 11-Oct-2021 15:45
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My mate in Syndey's Northern Beaches is looking forward to dinner at the RSL tonight. Lots of restrictions there like spacing of groups, mandatory mask and double vaccinated for entry, also no singing allowed, lol. But he's excited as hell, even though he expects cases to explode. His family has done what they can, time to start living. They live a very social life there, eating out a lot and things like that, so it must be real hard cooped up in up in apartment for 100 days.

I hope he can get a haircut before he goes out, he looked like a cross between Boris Johnson and Sideshow Bob a few weeks ago!


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  #2793303 11-Oct-2021 16:11
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Auckland stays where it is.

 

Northland L3 until Thurs night pending testing data.

 

Waikato will also be L3 until then with a shift to L2 unless anything major comes up. 


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