2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2794276 12-Oct-2021 21:11

Oblivian: Taken away the individual jab details

If you want that information, you can request a confirmation of Covid 19 letter from the MoH.

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-requesting-proof-vaccination is the URL. You can opt to get it via email or post.

The vaccine confirmation letter from MoH has the following fields:

Last Name
Given Name
NHI Number
Date of Birth

Dose
Vaccine Name
Vaccine sponsor
Disease targeted
Date Administered
Batch number

For the Covid conspiracy folks (sorry to disappoint), sadly the letter does not have:

Data plan
5G bands
IP Settings / Port settings
Whether vaccine was created by Bill Gates, the new world order, @Linux (in his black helicopter) or the illuminati.

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#2794278 12-Oct-2021 21:13

@cokemaster:

Whether vaccine was created by Bill Gates, the new world order, @Linux (in his black helicopter) or the illuminati.

I haven't heard of @Linux's black helicopter in years!

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#2794280 12-Oct-2021 21:16

cokemaster:
If you want that information, you can request a confirmation of Covid 19 letter from the MoH.

Nono, just an observation between beta and actual :)

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#2794285 12-Oct-2021 21:26

cokemaster:

The vaccine confirmation letter from MoH has the following fields:

For the Covid conspiracy folks (sorry to disappoint), sadly the letter does not have:

Make sure you do a Sheldon and get it laminated ;-p

I think you also missed out a myriad on the conspiracy front, but don't want to add fuel to the dwindling fire (at least in NZ it seems).

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#2794304 13-Oct-2021 07:08

freitasm:
My Covid Record is live now and not in beta anymore.

I tried signing up last night, still have not received the email confirmation at the first step. Hopefully sorted by end of the week when I'm fully vaccinated.

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#2794311 13-Oct-2021 07:27

TeaLeaf:

tdgeek:

And if more go the 3 week route and not the 8 week route, much faster. I had a choice of both, Im in level 2 I still chose 3 weeks.

It was 8 weeks? I thought was always 3 or 6. Still should be a personal choice though, not a pressured to get it earlier. Especially if that 2nd dose doesnt make any difference time wise to the total outcome.

There was a *lot* of discussion on social media from people pushing out their vaccines to 8-12 weeks because they believed it offered far superior protection. Right now you have to be absolute nuts to do this, but many people still are.

The NZ Govt and MoH reasons for moving it out to 6 weeks was solely to get more 1st jabs done ASAP in August when there was a huge vaccine shortage. This messaging became very confused when media starting hyping the small UK govt funded non peer reviewed study which did show a greater immune response when the 2nd jab was pushed out - but the problem is it's been pretty well accepted now that govt funded study was designed to justify the UK govt move to 12 weeks between jabs earlier in the year when they faced massive vaccine shortages.

That's not to suggest there aren't small benefits in some people from doing this, but Pfizer official guidance is still a 21 day gap, and when we're facing the most serious threats to this whole country from Covid it's important that we get a fully vaccinated people ASAP.

It's pretty clear now we don't have a gold standard vaccine that is way better than everything else and that boosters will highly likely be essential for everybody next year. They should be being rolled out for essential workers now, and why the lack of a booster program isn't bigger news right is a scandal in itself.

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#2794316 13-Oct-2021 07:49

sbiddle:

It's pretty clear now we don't have a gold standard vaccine that is way better than everything else and that boosters will highly likely be essential for everybody next year. They should be being rolled out for essential workers now, and why the lack of a booster program isn't bigger news right is a scandal in itself.

Totally agree. A lot of my colleagues working MIF are asking exactly the same question. As a group we were all vaccinated back in Feb/Mar/Apr.

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#2794321 13-Oct-2021 08:27

Citizen police doing their work

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/126651636/covid19-public-tipoff-identified-man-who-flew-from-whangrei-to-queenstown-without-exemption

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#2794332 13-Oct-2021 08:55

sbiddle:

It's pretty clear now we don't have a gold standard vaccine that is way better than everything else and that boosters will highly likely be essential for everybody next year. They should be being rolled out for essential workers now, and why the lack of a booster program isn't bigger news right is a scandal in itself.

Don't worry, even though the media don't seem to be the sharpest tool,

I can assure you a little bird told a little bird who told a little bird... That this is being escalated to the man himself.

Watch this space and leave it to the little birds on this front.

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#2794340 13-Oct-2021 09:19

Batman: the man himself.

Ashley?

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#2794346 13-Oct-2021 09:34

sbiddle:

It's pretty clear now we don't have a gold standard vaccine that is way better than everything else and that boosters will highly likely be essential for everybody next year. They should be being rolled out for essential workers now, and why the lack of a booster program isn't bigger news right is a scandal in itself.

Well we do have the gold standard vaccine unless you add Moderna into the mix - which probably wouldn't have been available anyway - certainly not in the timeframe of NZ's vaccine rollout, and may have been less accepted by the "hesitant" due to far higher rates of heart inflammation .

It's still uncertain if boosters will be essential for general rollout.

For most of us, then VE is still highly protective against severe disease after 6 months (>90%). There may be good reason to give boosters to others, but in terms of reducing community infection rates and returning to "normal life", jabbing 5-11 YOs may be more critical.

There are valid reasons for caution about booster jabbing.

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#2794354 13-Oct-2021 09:51

quickymart:

Batman: the man himself.

Ashley?

Word salad.

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#2794357 13-Oct-2021 09:57

Fred99:

sbiddle:

It's pretty clear now we don't have a gold standard vaccine that is way better than everything else and that boosters will highly likely be essential for everybody next year. They should be being rolled out for essential workers now, and why the lack of a booster program isn't bigger news right is a scandal in itself.

Well we do have the gold standard vaccine unless you add Moderna into the mix - which probably wouldn't have been available anyway - certainly not in the timeframe of NZ's vaccine rollout, and may have been less accepted by the "hesitant" due to far higher rates of heart inflammation .

It's still uncertain if boosters will be essential for general rollout.

For most of us, then VE is still highly protective against severe disease after 6 months (>90%). There may be good reason to give boosters to others, but in terms of reducing community infection rates and returning to "normal life", jabbing 5-11 YOs may be more critical.

There are valid reasons for caution about booster jabbing.

what is the source of those "valid reasons" please? CDC seem quite comfortable https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html

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#2794385 13-Oct-2021 10:42

cshwone:

what is the source of those "valid reasons" please? CDC seem quite comfortable https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html

To quote from UK SAGE (Scientific advisory group for emergencies).

Antigenic drift: A gradual or punctuated accumulation of antigenic variation that eventually
leads to current vaccine failure. Worst case is that this drift combines with significant
antigenic sin (vaccination resulting in an immune response that is dominated by antibodies
to previously experienced viruses/vaccines) meaning that it becomes difficult to
revaccinate to induce antibodies to the new strains. Genetic and antigenic drift are almost
inevitable. Antigenic sin has not yet been reported for SARS-CoV-2 so we consider this
possibility less likely.

So, considered lower risk and a "worst case" outcome from the inevitable antigenic drift - but very serious if it was to happen.

There was political pressure from the White House to roll out booster shots to a wider group than was endorsed (in a 9:6 vote) by the CDC panel reviewing the data.

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#2794391 13-Oct-2021 10:58

And yet the UK NHS are rolling out boosters:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-booster-vaccine/

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