2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2810711 10-Nov-2021 19:48

SJB:

Only the Auckland public.

It's been like 85 days, no other part of NZ has been locked down for this long, and this is on top of a previous regional lockdown and the national ones last year.

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#2810712 10-Nov-2021 19:49

Technofreak:
I agree, they have no need for this information and should be told as much. It's really not much different to a person holding a professional registration like an electrician or even someone like a paramedic coming on site. No one askes to see their qualification/registration details. You trust that the company they work for has ensured the staff they send are appropriately qualified.

Except that the EWRB encourages customers to check that electricians on site are licenced. If they don't show their card you can search the public register of electrical workers. What's the saying "Trust but verify".

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#2810714 10-Nov-2021 19:57

As with most 'evolving' things.

It's only suggested. But use of it to be backed up.. eventually.

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#2810716 10-Nov-2021 20:05

sbiddle:

Pretty surprising to hear Hipkins say tonight that *anybody* who wants the AZ vaccine can get it after consultation with those giving the vaccination. This was a pretty significant change from Bloomfield at 1pm who made it very clear there was very strict criteria over who would be eligible.

There is so much confusion occurring at present with poor communication and decision making.

I don't get why they would restrict it to a few select people. If someone flatly refused the Pfizer one but said they will get the Astrazeneca then give it to them. Wouldn't it be better to have them vaccinated than unvaccinated?

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#2810768 10-Nov-2021 20:22

I don't know the answer. Imo there are several reasons. Leaving out the logistics... Pfizer messenger vax technically has a better safety and efficacy record. On an ethical basis doctors are generally not keen to prescribe something with significantly lower stats unless there is a good reason.

I could make up a hypothetical example involving ivermectin but that would just confuse things. Short answer.. medical ethics imo.

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#2810823 10-Nov-2021 20:41

This quote totally made my day today;

Stuff: conspiracy theories seen at the protest – like the Qanon followers who told Stuff they believed Ardern had been arrested two years ago by then United States President Donald Trump and wore an ankle bracelet.

I had a smile on my face for the rest of the day. It's insane.

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#2810824 10-Nov-2021 20:49

gzt: This quote totally made my day today;

Stuff: conspiracy theories seen at the protest – like the Qanon followers who told Stuff they believed Ardern had been arrested two years ago by then United States President Donald Trump and wore an ankle bracelet.

I had a smile on my face for the rest of the day. It's insane.

It feels me with a sense of hope. I had been a bit disappointed by New Zealand being underrepresented in the /HCA subreddit. This crowd however - we're talking about hundreds of candidates ready to volunteer for a nomination. Represent!

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#2810825 10-Nov-2021 20:49

gzt: This quote totally made my day today;

Stuff: conspiracy theories seen at the protest – like the Qanon followers who told Stuff they believed Ardern had been arrested two years ago by then United States President Donald Trump and wore an ankle bracelet.

I had a smile on my face for the rest of the day. It's insane.

i thought it was even funnier that Collins had to point out that it wasnt true.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2810826 10-Nov-2021 21:04

Technofreak:

I agree, they have no need for this information and should be told as much. It's really not much different to a person holding a professional registration like an electrician or even someone like a paramedic coming on site. No one askes to see their qualification/registration details. You trust that the company they work for has ensured the staff they send are appropriately qualified.

Actually places do check that stuff, if its an active construction site then there are massive checks about peoples qualifications before being allowed on site.

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#2810888 10-Nov-2021 21:35

Oblivian:
As with most 'evolving' things.

It's only suggested. But use of it to be backed up.. eventually.

You should avoid storing any details from the pass, unless there is a reason to do so. We recommend adopting a privacy-first stance and consider whether you have a legitimate purpose to hold this data.

⚠️ Note: Legislation is being drafted to limit the collection and use of data from an NZ COVID Pass.

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As i still use cards for all sorts of things would it be just fine to use the printed version of the vaccination certificate?

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#2810896 10-Nov-2021 21:48

A point to ponder, as so many to the north cheer at their so called freedom a large number of folks in Aotearoa are now destined to lock down possibly for several years or face a horrible death. This could have easily been avoided if the government had the guts to stay on course and selfish dicks just followed the rules. From one of those facing this I hope the selfish dicks can live with the death toll but I suspect they will not care.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2810897 10-Nov-2021 22:06

MikeB4:

A point to ponder, as so many to the north cheer at their so called freedom a large number of folks in Aotearoa are now destined to lock down possibly for several years or face a horrible death. This could have easily been avoided if the government had the guts to stay on course and selfish dicks just followed the rules. From one of those facing this I hope the selfish dicks can live with the death toll but I suspect they will not care.

If it could be avoided so easily why hasn't it been anywhere in the world?

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#2810898 10-Nov-2021 22:09

Handle9:

If it could be avoided so easily why hasn't it been anywhere in the world?

The same lobbying and selfish attitudes are not isolated to Aotearoa

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2810901 10-Nov-2021 22:36

Handle9:

MikeB4:

A point to ponder, as so many to the north cheer at their so called freedom a large number of folks in Aotearoa are now destined to lock down possibly for several years or face a horrible death. This could have easily been avoided if the government had the guts to stay on course and selfish dicks just followed the rules. From one of those facing this I hope the selfish dicks can live with the death toll but I suspect they will not care.

If it could be avoided so easily why hasn't it been anywhere in the world?

Well there is Taiwan, but necessity....

For reasons to do with their 'loveable' neighbor,
they knew they would have trouble sourcing vaccines.
Still accepting donations and near expiry date to make up numbers.
For us but for a Taxi trip in Australia, maybe, maybe not.

Taiwan reports 5 imported COVID cases --Zero Local Cases
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4340713

CECC reports first case of ‘Delta-plus’ infection
https://taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2021/10/30/2003767023

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#2810902 10-Nov-2021 22:44

I hadn't noticed this until it was mentioned in the Discovery announcement today

No more 'Jessica, then Tova' in the standups

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300443832/tova-obrien-quits-newshub-for-new-talk-radio-gig

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