2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2814809 17-Nov-2021 19:21

Batman:

sorry i'm not sure what you mean

Govt gives up on 90%. We all know that, we don't need a public link, so what was your point? Its good or its bad?

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#2814815 17-Nov-2021 19:28

tdgeek:
Batman:

sorry i'm not sure what you mean

Govt gives up on 90%. We all know that, we don't need a public link, so what was your point? Its good or its bad?

It had loads of graphs in case people were interested in the graphs

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#2814816 17-Nov-2021 19:32

Slightly more than 1300 unvaccinated health workers have been stood down so far across the country after the Covid-19 vaccine mandate came into force.

Im not sure what % that is, but wow. 1300 health workers are anti vax.

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#2814819 17-Nov-2021 19:41

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It had loads of graphs in case people were interested in the graphs

Govt gives up is your headline. So unless it belongs in the political thread, you need to post why that is good or it's bad.

My take is base common sense. 90% was an unoffical target. It won't be met due to the number of anti vaxxers, so do we want to hold on for 4 months to persuade them to get on board, or do we accept that anti vaxxers wont change, this is the most that NZ can achieve, so we will run with that. Given that the Vaccine Cert is good for vaxxed people, and the unvaxxed have chosen to stay in an effective level 4

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#2814820 17-Nov-2021 19:41

According to Facebook land. 4% of medical workforce

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#2814822 17-Nov-2021 19:45

Oblivian: According to Facebook land. 4% of medical workforce

What did they use until now to treat diseases? Witchcraft? Thoughts and prayers?

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#2814823 17-Nov-2021 19:49

freitasm:

Oblivian: According to Facebook land. 4% of medical workforce

What did they use until now to treat diseases? Witchcraft? Thoughts and prayers?

chakra crystals and essential oils

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#2814825 17-Nov-2021 19:51

tdgeek:
Batman:

It had loads of graphs in case people were interested in the graphs

Govt gives up is your headline. So unless it belongs in the political thread, you need to post why that is good or it's bad.

My take is base common sense. 90% was an unoffical target. It won't be met due to the number of anti vaxxers, so do we want to hold on for 4 months to persuade them to get on board, or do we accept that anti vaxxers wont change, this is the most that NZ can achieve, so we will run with that. Given that the Vaccine Cert is good for vaxxed people, and the unvaxxed have chosen to stay in an effective level 4

Nope it says covid vaccine in 13 charts

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#2814842 17-Nov-2021 20:07

So australia cases were going up and up, and as soon as they open up they all go down. How is that possible

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/nov/16/covid-19-australia-data-tracker-map-cases-today-coronavirus-tracking-stats-live-data-update-by-state-melbourne-regional-victoria-vic-sydney-nsw-how-many-new-active-case-numbers-statistics-deaths-death-toll

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#2814861 17-Nov-2021 20:25

freitasm:
Oblivian: According to Facebook land. 4% of medical workforce

What did they use until now to treat diseases? Witchcraft? Thoughts and prayers?

Chiro, so much the same.

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#2814863 17-Nov-2021 20:32

Behodar:

freitasm:

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Does anyone know where I can find the Covid Protection Framework? I've only been able to track down the simplified stuff at https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and-updates/covid-19-protection/ which doesn't have enough detail. The cynic in me suspects they haven't actually written it yet...

Something like this? Getting ready for the COVID-19 Protection Framework — business.govt.nz

Unfortunately that one's lacking too. Specifically I'm trying to figure out whether our work Christmas party can go ahead (it's on our premises and outside, but would likely have more than 100 people). All the details I can find are for public events, not staff events, and I can't find anything on legislation.govt.nz around it either.

Ultimately it's not my problem personally as I'm not one of the organisers, but I don't want to waste time on a costume if it ends up being cancelled...

There is nothing online anywhere giving detailed requirements - I too came to the conclusion they they haven't written it yet too.

There are plenty of events that may or may not be allowed, and likewise still no real guidance for places that have to scan codes. I don't think a lot of places realise the burden and extra costs that will be associated with this - that's not a bad thing, it's just that it's hard to plan when you really don't know the full details.

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#2814864 17-Nov-2021 20:36

Thanks. I'm sure it'll turn up in the next week or two. Pity we can't plan ahead though :(

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#2814885 17-Nov-2021 20:55

tdgeek: Im not sure what % that is, but wow. 1300 health workers are anti vax.

Oblivian: According to Facebook land. 4% of medical workforce

The stuff article says "Meanwhile, more than 80,000 district health board workers have been vaccinated"; so 1,300 out of 80,000 is just over 1.5%

Personally, I think "Over 98% DHB staff vaccinated" is a much more positive headline...

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#2814916 17-Nov-2021 21:32

Batman: So australia cases were going up and up, and as soon as they open up they all go down. How is that possible

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/nov/16/covid-19-australia-data-tracker-map-cases-today-coronavirus-tracking-stats-live-data-update-by-state-melbourne-regional-victoria-vic-sydney-nsw-how-many-new-active-case-numbers-statistics-deaths-death-toll

Once places open up the testing rate drops?

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#2814920 17-Nov-2021 21:35

Senecio:
Batman: So australia cases were going up and up, and as soon as they open up they all go down. How is that possible

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/datablog/ng-interactive/2021/nov/16/covid-19-australia-data-tracker-map-cases-today-coronavirus-tracking-stats-live-data-update-by-state-melbourne-regional-victoria-vic-sydney-nsw-how-many-new-active-case-numbers-statistics-deaths-death-toll

Once places open up the testing rate drops?

hmm ... maybe need to look for hospitalizations, that should tell the whole story

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