India is a huge anomaly here with only 156 cases and 3 deaths to date.

WHY❓

Or this a slow burning fuse 💣

Ge0rge:

Likewise, however we have friends closer to town who are within the boundaries, that we have stuff delivered too. Perhaps that could be an option for you?

I would have to make some friends along the route first. It is probably less risky to just keep doing my own shopping.

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Nice. No matter how I look at it, no matter what the Govt does, too many citizens will ruin it. If everybody played ball,the virus would have literally nowhere to go, and once an infected person self cured, that one example is extinct. Found one person, made them crook, now its gone forever without getting to another. Thats the theory which is 100% accurate, but falls over when people dont play the game

 

^^^ Yes. I imagine with self isolation, they do build into their modeling that a percentage won't do it properly, and will spread it. Which is why I imagine we are all being asked to also socially distance ourselves as well. That is why some form of quarantine in this situation maybe better, which is how they originally started, with the repatriated NZers from China. But there are too many people coming back, 80k, and some of those will be carriers, so we will be getting more cases into NZ.

I hope we don't have anyone here who is going to try and intentionally spread it as has occurred in Japan here https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12318111  . I wonder if there are measures in place to deal with sort of person here?

I note that with todays new cases, they announced they have now been testing people who have flu like symptoms in other areas that may not be connected to travel or travelers into NZ. So we may now start to get an idea if there has been CT occurring. 

There has been a 2 year old NZer as a confirmed case in South Africa, who recently traveled from NZ with no previous travel history https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120403807/coronavirus-2yearold-boy-confirmed-to-have-virus-in-south-africa-travelled-from-new-zealand . I wonder if they will be doing contact tracing here for that as to whether it could have been a CT, or whether it was contracted durrig the trip?

Courier here in Christchurch just delivered a parcel (Over 2 hours later than usual run) and said it is manic and everyone is shutting down!

Traffic cameras are showing things are quieter than normal.

Maybe everyone is at the supermarket?

Rikkitic:

 

Hawke's Bay panic shopping report: Time has been drawing near for my fortnightly shopping expedition into town. This is how I always do my shopping, but now it looks like I am being driven by panic. Good thing I don't live in Oz or ScoMo would be shouting at me.

 

Maybe an element of panic is creeping in. I have been seeing the news reports of new virus cases and supermarket shelves being cleared out. I decided to bring my trip forward a couple days just in case.

 

Traffic in Hastings seems pretty normal. Maybe a little lighter than usual.

 

Countdown was fuller than normal, but not Doomsday packed. What struck me was that nearly every shopping cart that emerged was filled to overflowing. I haven't seen that before, even at Christmas. 

 

Inside not a mask in sight. Not a hope of maintaining social distance, either. I'm not sure how they intend to work that one out. People were busy but not aggressive. No battles over toilet paper. Hand sanitiser provided at the door. There were nearly as many Countdown staff as shoppers in the store, constantly restocking shelves. As a result, few shortages and no conflicts. The only thing I noticed was a paucity of tinned peas and corn. But there were plenty of beans of various description and also an abundance of other tinned goods. Lots of tuna. 

 

So busier than usual but no panic and no major shortages. It will be interesting to see what it is like next time.

 

 

 

 

 

Sad. Every 4 minutes we seem to get reminded about precautions, but you go everywhere and to many parts of the masses, its BAU instead. I bet if you asked some of those shoppers about social distancing, they would day, "yeah its really important eh"

There is probably a phsycological term for people who believe in stuff but dont act on it as it cant happen to me. Some syndrome

FineWine:

 

India is a huge anomaly here with only 156 cases and 3 deaths to date.

 

WHY❓

 

Or this a slow burning fuse 💣

 

3 possibilities -

Either they didn't import any cases - yet

They are genetically immune to the virus (highly highly unlikely - you would still have a proportion that would be affected)

They are not testing and no records of death are being taken

Quite likely the last one. Same with south america and africa - though because of the vastness of the south american and african continent it may take a while for the virus to do the rounds

As at 2.16 pm the Travel alert notice has *finally* been changed to the highest level to match Australia's.  Far too slow in my opinion, this decision could have been made within hours of Australia going to that level.

'ALERT - COVID-19 - Do not travel overseas at this time. We urge New Zealanders currently travelling overseas to consider returning home while commercial options remain available.'

tdgeek:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Hawke's Bay panic shopping report: Time has been drawing near for my fortnightly shopping expedition into town. This is how I always do my shopping, but now it looks like I am being driven by panic. Good thing I don't live in Oz or ScoMo would be shouting at me.

 

Maybe an element of panic is creeping in. I have been seeing the news reports of new virus cases and supermarket shelves being cleared out. I decided to bring my trip forward a couple days just in case.

 

Traffic in Hastings seems pretty normal. Maybe a little lighter than usual.

 

Countdown was fuller than normal, but not Doomsday packed. What struck me was that nearly every shopping cart that emerged was filled to overflowing. I haven't seen that before, even at Christmas. 

 

Inside not a mask in sight. Not a hope of maintaining social distance, either. I'm not sure how they intend to work that one out. People were busy but not aggressive. No battles over toilet paper. Hand sanitiser provided at the door. There were nearly as many Countdown staff as shoppers in the store, constantly restocking shelves. As a result, few shortages and no conflicts. The only thing I noticed was a paucity of tinned peas and corn. But there were plenty of beans of various description and also an abundance of other tinned goods. Lots of tuna. 

 

So busier than usual but no panic and no major shortages. It will be interesting to see what it is like next time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sad. Every 4 minutes we seem to get reminded about precautions, but you go everywhere and to many parts of the masses, its BAU instead. I bet if you asked some of those shoppers about social distancing, they would day, "yeah its really important eh"

 

There is probably a phsycological term for people who believe in stuff but dont act on it as it cant happen to me. Some syndrome

 

I was browsing social media - I am getting the impression that a large number of people think it's just another cold. Some think it's a man made conspiracy. Some are even planning to profit from this. A few racists out there too as usual.

That could be what you're seeing.

mattwnz:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Nice. No matter how I look at it, no matter what the Govt does, too many citizens will ruin it. If everybody played ball,the virus would have literally nowhere to go, and once an infected person self cured, that one example is extinct. Found one person, made them crook, now its gone forever without getting to another. Thats the theory which is 100% accurate, but falls over when people dont play the game

 

 

 

 

^^^ Yes. I imagine with self isolation, they do build into their modeling that a percentage won't do it properly, and will spread it. Which is why I imagine we are all being asked to also socially distance ourselves as well. That is why some form of quarantine in this situation maybe better, which is how they originally started, with the repatriated NZers from China. But there are too many people coming back, 80k, and some of those will be carriers, so we will be getting more cases into NZ.

 

I hope we don't have anyone here who is going to try and intentionally spread it as has occurred in Japan here https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12318111  . I wonder if there are measures in place to deal with sort of person here?

 

I note that with todays new cases, they announced they have now been testing people who have flu like symptoms in other areas that may not be connected to travel or travelers into NZ. So we may now start to get an idea if there has been CT occurring. 

 

There has been a 2 year old NZer as a confirmed case in South Africa, who recently traveled from NZ with no previous travel history https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120403807/coronavirus-2yearold-boy-confirmed-to-have-virus-in-south-africa-travelled-from-new-zealand . I wonder if they will be doing contact tracing here for that as to whether it could have been a CT, or whether it was contracted durrig the trip?

 

 

 

Yes, that is a test for CT prevalence or existence.

Dang there was an artcle i cant find that that Dr Bloomfield refered to where they are not going after flatten the curve now its another method (includes some flatten the curve) whereby they go hard then ease it then go hard then ease it. The idea is to maintain control for longer. Buy more time, reduce victims

Rikkitic:

 

Hawke's Bay panic shopping report: Time has been drawing near for my fortnightly shopping expedition into town. This is how I always do my shopping, but now it looks like I am being driven by panic. Good thing I don't live in Oz or ScoMo would be shouting at me.

 

Maybe an element of panic is creeping in. I have been seeing the news reports of new virus cases and supermarket shelves being cleared out. I decided to bring my trip forward a couple days just in case.

 

Traffic in Hastings seems pretty normal. Maybe a little lighter than usual.

 

Countdown was fuller than normal, but not Doomsday packed. What struck me was that nearly every shopping cart that emerged was filled to overflowing. I haven't seen that before, even at Christmas. 

 

Inside not a mask in sight. Not a hope of maintaining social distance, either. I'm not sure how they intend to work that one out. People were busy but not aggressive. No battles over toilet paper. Hand sanitiser provided at the door. There were nearly as many Countdown staff as shoppers in the store, constantly restocking shelves. As a result, few shortages and no conflicts. The only thing I noticed was a paucity of tinned peas and corn. But there were plenty of beans of various description and also an abundance of other tinned goods. Lots of tuna. 

 

So busier than usual but no panic and no major shortages. It will be interesting to see what it is like next time.

 

 

 

 

 

Just visited paknsave tauranga.  A few products looked a little low in stock, but we could do the usual shopping just fine.  Busier than usual , but not too bad. I guess they had all the checkout lanes open (never seen that before) which probably helped. 

Interesting, most of the flour had sold out -- why so? In their isolation people want to bake cakes ? Or make bread?  I'd have thought pasta is a better bet. 

Batman:

 

 

 

I was browsing social media - I am getting the impression that a large number of people think it's just another cold. Some think it's a man made conspiracy. Some are even planning to profit from this. A few racists out there too as usual.

 

That could be what you're seeing.

 

Thanks, Batman, but no, I wasn't seeing that. Its the regular, small, daily things I see of no big urgency, in day to day life, Rikki;s post was just another small example. I dont expect people to be pulling their hair out as they cycle past :-) but it often seems like, not that big. So the ones that are very concerned, well thats greta and normal, but many arent, annecdotally. Thats a worry

Rikkitic:

 

So busier than usual but no panic and no major shortages. It will be interesting to see what it is like next time.

 

 

 

 

 

I would be interested to know what the best day/times to go to supermarkets,to avoid crowds of people. Last time I went a few days ago, the queues at the tills were to the back of the store. Things that were low on the shelves were pasta and flour. 

surfisup1000:

 

Interesting, most of the flour had sold out -- why so? In their isolation people want to bake cakes ? Or make bread?  I'd have thought pasta is a better bet. 

 

Give me tinned corn, eggs and flour and I can feed a family for a few days. 

I was planning a fairly major renovation at home. Converting a bedroom to a very plush bathroom. Very much a discretionary spend. Value in the local economy about $50k. Not a vast sum in the great scheme of things.

However, the current crisis has made me rethink the project and hanging onto the cash as I suspect there are many rainy days to come.

Probably many people like me re-evaluating priorities that collectively will have an impact at the local level.

Batman:

 

 

 

I was browsing social media - I am getting the impression that a large number of people think it's just another cold. Some think it's a man made conspiracy. Some are even planning to profit from this. A few racists out there too as usual.

 

That could be what you're seeing.

 

I am getting a lot of spam emails advertising face masks for this virus, ad these are getting through the spam filter. I have been getting them for a good month on a daily basis. IMO Online social media s not a good place to be at the moment with this.