2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2836614 22-Dec-2021 09:32

quickymart:

I don't know if my boys watching me get my booster would help with their anxiety, I don't like needles as it is :D

At least it shows them a good example, not liking something but doing it anyway. My daughter just had her 2x 4yo jabs earlier in the year which she didn't like much, but she still got the second one even though the first hurt. 👍

I had told her she didn't have to have any more for a few years, I didn't really think about the covid one! But she knows I've had mine and I think she will choose to get it done. She knows it only hurts for a little while and it's better than getting sick.

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#2836716 22-Dec-2021 10:17

BookMyVaccine still insisting on 6 months. Takes me out to Feb 3rd.

Any idea when that will change?

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#2836723 22-Dec-2021 10:22

SJB:

BookMyVaccine still insisting on 6 months. Takes me out to Feb 3rd.

Any idea when that will change?

I did read them say that will change later but it will be walk in when it starts

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#2836791 22-Dec-2021 10:59

Got my booster at the Mt wellington center this morning at 5.5 months. They are taking people at greater than 5 months at the moment (but close from noon on the 13rd until the 10th of Jan).

Lots of warnings about myocarditis, and to seek medical help if I experience shortness of breath / heart palpitations etc.

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#2836792 22-Dec-2021 11:02

Sup:

I am glad there is a four month gap now. It is long enough to freshen up the vaccinators, it allows them to have a wee break and for those still going to not be burnt out.

Not sure what you are on about here. We aren't having a break from vaccinating people. If anything the pace will increase in the first few months as those who were previously waiting 6 months now become eligible after 4 months.

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#2836812 22-Dec-2021 11:27

cshwone:

Sup:

I am glad there is a four month gap now. It is long enough to freshen up the vaccinators, it allows them to have a wee break and for those still going to not be burnt out.

Not sure what you are on about here. We aren't having a break from vaccinating people. If anything the pace will increase in the first few months as those who were previously waiting 6 months now become eligible after 4 months.

Yes boosters means more vaccines means more work.

We could have copied the UK and tried to llog everyone who are at 3 months effective immediately.

Instead we are letting the bulk of the work force take Christmas off and not starting the four month program till January.

Just keep swimming...

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#2836820 22-Dec-2021 11:41

Locations of interest have been listed for the Hutt Valley, I think we've got through this very lightly so far

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#2836830 22-Dec-2021 12:00

NSW:

3763 daily cases, 302 in hospital, 40 in ICU. Similar levels of vaccination as NZ.

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#2836839 22-Dec-2021 12:18

DjShadow:

Locations of interest have been listed for the Hutt Valley, I think we've got through this very lightly so far

Bugger.

That is not what I was looking for with a declining Delta R Naught, new cases in a population center.

Big vaccine wall down there though.

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#2836842 22-Dec-2021 12:25

Scott3:

NSW:

3763 daily cases, 302 in hospital, 40 in ICU. Similar levels of vaccination as NZ.

NZ is 12+

NSW is 16+

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#2836845 22-Dec-2021 12:44

Batman:

Scott3:

NSW:

3763 daily cases, 302 in hospital, 40 in ICU. Similar levels of vaccination as NZ.

NZ is 12+

NSW is 16+

Argh, now I am going to have to normilase it.

Assume NZ population mix is the same as aussie.

NZ HSU 12 - 15 population is 259,427

NZ HSU 16+ population is 4,424,599

Sum = 4,684,026 (note that this data includes some people that are not in NZ, MOH is using roughly 4.2m is NZ's eligible population)

so 5.5% of eligable in 12 - 15 group.

So for NSW First doses 81.5*0.055 + 94.9*0.945 = 94.2% of 12+

NZ MOH data has our first doses for 12+ at 94%

Largely the same. (But if you want to get picky, you could call out the difference between the MOH NZ population and the Stats NZ's population.

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#2836869 22-Dec-2021 13:51

Australia, probably its not so much the % vaccinated, but the absolute number unvaccinated.
Large populations mean each % point is a larger number.

Then you have children.

Behavior is the other one.
When you have few restrictions, and those inclined not to exercise personal responsibility.
Its Christmas ! Legends in their own lunchtime go much further in deliberately feeding spread.
They congregate, for religion, parties, politics, deliberate ignorance, virus is happy with any chance.
Inclined to just act normally when sick as they are doing everyone a favor spreading it.
But then it does not exist.

Murdoch's millions.

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#2836892 22-Dec-2021 14:34

Scott3:

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Argh, now I am going to have to normilase it.

Assume NZ population mix is the same as aussie.

NZ HSU 12 - 15 population is 259,427

NZ HSU 16+ population is 4,424,599

Sum = 4,684,026 (note that this data includes some people that are not in NZ, MOH is using roughly 4.2m is NZ's eligible population)

so 5.5% of eligable in 12 - 15 group.

So for NSW First doses 81.5*0.055 + 94.9*0.945 = 94.2% of 12+

NZ MOH data has our first doses for 12+ at 94%

Largely the same. (But if you want to get picky, you could call out the difference between the MOH NZ population and the Stats NZ's population.

FWIW:

NZ: 12+ population @ 31Dec20 = 4,337,590 (Stats NZ Info Share, Dec21); First Doses = 3,967,996 (MOH, 22 Dec 21) = 91.5% of 12+ population

NSW: 12+ population @ 30Jun21 = 6,979,337 (abs.gov.au, Dec21); First Doses = 6,549,195 (covidlive.com.au, 22 Dec 21) = 93.8% of 12+ population

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#2836919 22-Dec-2021 15:07

Scott3:

NSW:

3763 daily cases, 302 in hospital, 40 in ICU. Similar levels of vaccination as NZ.

Note sure what to make of those numbers yet. Slow creep up in hospital use. The daily numbers are not as crazy as the first doubling time.

Looks like the first rapid explosion was fueled by the super spreader events at the start during the reopening plan.

However we have two super spreaders to get through next while watching this situation.

Victoria saw a one hundred ish case jump in their rolling seven day hospital numbers, and six deaths today.

It is crazy how Victorias outbreak never ended thanks to all the thousands of antivaxxers in that state.

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#2836928 22-Dec-2021 15:26

DS248:

FWIW:

NZ: 12+ population @ 31Dec20 = 4,337,590 (Stats NZ Info Share, Dec21); First Doses = 3,967,996 (MOH, 22 Dec 21) = 91.5% of 12+ population

NSW: 12+ population @ 30Jun21 = 6,979,337 (abs.gov.au, Dec21); First Doses = 6,549,195 (covidlive.com.au, 22 Dec 21) = 93.8% of 12+ population

Now we are getting into high vaccination rates, the discrepancy between the Stats NZ population, and the NZ Health service use population is getting quite material. The government and media probiably should have been using the stats NZ population all along.

Your calculated first dose (91.5%), vs the MOH published value (94%) is a big difference. Hadn't released out numbers were out by so much.

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