2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2849636 13-Jan-2022 08:01

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-locals-fed-up-with-destiny-church-freedom-and-rights-coalition-protests/L3ZADYWLXRCFNSDI4X6473IJJM/

I bet they are! I know I would be.

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#2849704 13-Jan-2022 10:23

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-locals-fed-up-with-destiny-church-freedom-and-rights-coalition-protests/L3ZADYWLXRCFNSDI4X6473IJJM/

I bet they are! I know I would be.

The residents should apply for a permit to blast LGBT+ music over and above these so called protests.

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#2849720 13-Jan-2022 10:42

ABBA - Waterloo. Constantly. Not that it's a bad song. It's just lethal when played through a PA system, and aimed at idiots.

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#2849721 13-Jan-2022 10:46

GV27:

ABBA - Waterloo. Constantly. Not that it's a bad song. It's just lethal when played through a PA system, and aimed at idiots.

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#2849736 13-Jan-2022 11:14

CruciasNZ:

quickymart:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-locals-fed-up-with-destiny-church-freedom-and-rights-coalition-protests/L3ZADYWLXRCFNSDI4X6473IJJM/

I bet they are! I know I would be.

The residents should apply for a permit to blast LGBT+ music over and above these so called protests.

Part of me would want to play the theme from the Omen.

But then I would get scared too.

"I'm a Barbie girl

In a Barbie world

Life in plastic

Its fantastic

You can brush my hair

Undress we everywhere...."

Just keep swimming...

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#2849756 13-Jan-2022 11:39

NSW cases bump to 92,264 ...! (backlog of RAT results added)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/nsw-records-22-deaths-and-92264-covid-cases/100753504

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#2849764 13-Jan-2022 11:50

DS248:

NSW cases bump to 92,264 ...! (backlog of RAT results added)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/nsw-records-22-deaths-and-92264-covid-cases/100753504

The 22 deaths is a concern, omicron wave is out competing the Delta wave for deaths.

Worse still in Victoria, 25 deaths.

Eventually they will analyse increased deaths to try to understand the wider effects of omicron.

Australia perhaps have two more weeks of this level of increased deaths. People really need to pay heed to what happens if you do not vaccinate everyone.

Just keep swimming...

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#2849766 13-Jan-2022 11:54

DS248:

NSW cases bump to 92,264 ...! (backlog of RAT results added)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/nsw-records-22-deaths-and-92264-covid-cases/100753504

A total of 30,877 positive PCR tests were recorded in the 24 hours to 8pm yesterday

So even without the RAT backlog, still a large number of "business as usual" positive tests.

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#2849774 13-Jan-2022 12:08

garethbezett:

So even without the RAT backlog, still a large number of "business as usual" positive tests.

The PCR positivity rates in both NSW and VIC are still around 1/3...

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#2849790 13-Jan-2022 12:14

Sup:

DS248:

NSW cases bump to 92,264 ...! (backlog of RAT results added)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/nsw-records-22-deaths-and-92264-covid-cases/100753504

The 22 deaths is a concern, omicron wave is out competing the Delta wave for deaths.

Worse still in Victoria, 25 deaths.

Eventually they will analyse increased deaths to try to understand the wider effects of omicron.

Australia perhaps have two more weeks of this level of increased deaths. People really need to pay heed to what happens if you do not vaccinate everyone.

you still have to wonder why NSW is so different from most other places with Omicron.eg Figures from Southern California. 55,000 cases [again real number much more], 88 people admitted to hospital, 7 in icu none on ventilation and 1 death, nothing like NSW

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2849792 13-Jan-2022 12:18

Interesting US discussion on vaccines (or should I say, vaccinations). Hadn't realised the issues with the J&J/Jansen vaccine, one of the few that are approved by Medsafe here (https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19/janssen-gazette.pdf).

Seems that use of the Janssen vaccine is very limited in the US.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788213

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#2849992 13-Jan-2022 13:24

There are 28 new community cases of Covid-19, and the number of new cases detected at the border has fallen to 13.

The Ministry of Health gave the update in a written statement on Thursday afternoon.

There are new cases in Auckland (nine), Waikato (three), Bay of Plenty (five), Lakes (two), Hutt Valley (two), Wairarapa (four) and Canterbury (three).

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#2850048 13-Jan-2022 13:39

vexxxboy:

you still have to wonder why NSW is so different from most other places with Omicron.eg Figures from Southern California. 55,000 cases [again real number much more], 88 people admitted to hospital, 7 in icu none on ventilation and 1 death, nothing like NSW

interesting.

also compare their delta outbreak and our delta outbreak.

does SoCal have mass underground public transport?

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#2850058 13-Jan-2022 14:03

vexxxboy:

DS248:

NSW cases bump to 92,264 ...! (backlog of RAT results added)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-13/nsw-records-22-deaths-and-92264-covid-cases/100753504

you still have to wonder why NSW is so different from most other places with Omicron.eg Figures from Southern California. 55,000 cases [again real number much more], 88 people admitted to hospital, 7 in icu none on ventilation and 1 death, nothing like NSW

As I have been saying all along. The risk to Australia, and therefore New Zealand, is that we have very low infection acquired immunity.

Other places, especially South Africa, which gave us this false economy of milder disease (for individuals yes, not for total populations that have completely different demographics).

Essentially New Zealand and Australia protected the people who 'would' have died from the like of Wuhan Beta Alpha Delta etc...so those vulnerable people are still in the ecosystem.

Fortunately, out of this group, the most vulnerable are older by which I mean they tend to be vaccinated, however vaccines cannot grow you a new immune system. If the hardware is old and in tatters, there is not a lot a vaccine can do about that.

Omicron unfortunately means, that for most of the highest risk folks, that it is impossible to evade infection....you could do it here and in Aus with Delta, but you would want to go off the grid with omicron.

The two hundred thousand or so unvaccinated adults here, are in for a bit of a thrashing from omicron...because they have no prior exposure.

Think about the behavior profile of these people, they do not take Covid seriously, many welcome it, they will get it first and they will see an explosive outbreak, and they will buckle our health system.

It will not break. Because the majority will be forced to recoup at home, even if they are VERY sick they will have to stay home, because that is how the system is geared here.

Sink or swim.

Having said all of this, I expect omicron to represent a mild to moderate illness for almost all of us. We will just unfortunately see the idiots cause plus twenty deaths a day here too because there is nothing unique here when compared to NSW and more especially Victoria who have even higher deaths because of health care inequities.

Get you food and medicine plan going today.

Get ahead of Omicron.

And make your booster the most important thing you have to do this year. And we will be fine despite seeing a lot of people who made bad calls suffer quite a lot.

Just keep swimming...

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#2850068 13-Jan-2022 14:28

It irks me greatly to think that people will suffer more because of these wombles. They're going to clog our hospitals and take up resources that could make a greater and more wide-spread difference elsewhere (e.g. cancer surgery being kicked down the kerb, etc. etc.). We're seeing that heavily in the USA right now, and in some places the system there is about ready to collapse. My friend's hospital is trying to coerce Nurses with COVID to keep working because they're so drowned in patients, almost all of which are unvaccinated. There was a six hour wait for patients at the ER two weeks ago, I am horrified to think of what the ambulance bill is going to be for those stuck in the parking lot inside an ambulance for hours (which apparently happened).

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