2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#3204600 8-Mar-2024 17:02

Had the XBB vaccine today.

It was released on Thursday and the local chemist confirmed that they have it.

My wife and I havent had COVID yet (touch wood) and are travelling overseas in May. So will take anything to potentially lessen effects if/when we get it.

I worked out it will be my 6th shot. Will keep taking it while offered.

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#3205538 12-Mar-2024 07:50

Four years... An update

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/briefing/covid-pandemic-anniversary.html?unlocked_article_code=1.b00.boG4.LSHQqSJpfI4V&smid=url-share

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#3205546 12-Mar-2024 08:33

Thankfully we were spared the degree of impact that they had in the US. Some of it was fortunate because of our physical distance causing delays before it arrived. Some of it was that islands have pretty good border control. By the time we really got hit by Covid we had pretty good levels of vaccination and we potentially didn't see much of the first strains that went wild in the US and Europe. Unfortunately I expect we now have similar levels of vaccine hesitancy or genuine anti-vax sentiments here as what are described in the US. The very fact that we escaped the degree of deaths found elsewhere has led some to decide that we over-reacted. I remember in the early days someone explained that we will have succeeded if we are able to have a debate around whether we over-reacted, as opposed to if we have significant deaths and nobody needs to debate whether we did too much.

We are still very much impacted by Covid - both by people getting it more than other sicknesses today, by people suffering a bewildering array of long-term symptoms because of long Covid, and by changes in our society because of the pandemic. We have more people working from home. We have fewer people eating and drinking and socialising than we did. We are still coming to grips with the social impact of the pandemic, never mind the medical and economic and even political ones. As everything can be made political, Covid decision making and spending has impacted our governments and our voters and although our leaders don't talk about Covid much these days they are still grappling with the fallout and consequences.

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#3211146 26-Mar-2024 13:37

I hope they filter the crazies out of the 11,000 submissions.

Public consultation on the terms of reference for the Royal Commission into COVID-19 Lessons has concluded, Internal Affairs Minister Hon Brooke van Velden says.

“I have been advised that there were over 11,000 submissions made through the Royal Commission’s online consultation portal.”

Expanding the scope of the Royal Commission of Inquiry into COVID-19 Lessons was a commitment in both the ACT-National and NZ First-National coalition agreements.

“It is clear that this Government is responding to a real need in the community to ensure their voices are heard on the matters relating to the pandemic that affected them the most,” Ms van Velden says.

“It is essential New Zealand works out what we need to do right in the future. This means asking the right questions. I would like to thank all New Zealanders who contributed their time and experiences to this process.

“I look forward to seeing the results of public submissions as soon as possible, which will inform the advice I take to Cabinet for its consideration of an expanded terms of reference.

“I am also turning my mind to filling the vacancy in the Commission membership left by Hon Hekia Parata. I will be consulting with my Coalition partners throughout this process.”

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#3211173 26-Mar-2024 14:23

freitasm:

I hope they filter the crazies out of the 11,000 submissions.

Public consultation on the terms of reference.

This wasn't the actual consultation of the enquiry thou, this was the consultation on letting more of the crazies in by widening the scope.... and giving the cookers a platfom

"Public consultation .... on expanding the inquiry's scope to include:

Use of multiple lockdowns
Vaccine procurement and efficacy
The social and economic impacts on both regional and national levels
Whether the decisions made, and steps taken, were justified
The cost-effectiveness of the government's policies, and whether the rules set by the government appropriately balanced Covid-19 elimination with other goals
The government's utilisation of partnerships with business and professional groups
The extent of disruption to New Zealanders' health, education, and business as a result of the government's policies
If the government's response was consistent with the rule of law
How New Zealand's pandemic preparedness compared to other countries"

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/508262/government-mulls-expanding-inquiry-into-covid-19-response

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#3211174 26-Mar-2024 14:27

Stalin would have signed the bottom of the list of names and handed over with a "You know what to do."

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#3211180 26-Mar-2024 14:38

From the "no shit sherlock" institute: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/512698/long-covid-teachers-healthcare-workers-most-vulnerable-report-finds

Actual report is at https://www.phcc.org.nz/briefing/long-covid-aotearoa-nz-risk-assessment-and-preventive-action-urgently-needed

Sadly for everyone I'm betting this government won't do anything at all.

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#3211209 26-Mar-2024 15:15

This government has one party that have been infected by anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists. The impact of long Covid isn't something they're going to spend a lot of money addressing given NZF would probably debate whether it really exists or whether it's just people being 'too lazy to work'.

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#3211215 26-Mar-2024 15:29

kyhwana2:

From the "no shit sherlock" institute: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/512698/long-covid-teachers-healthcare-workers-most-vulnerable-report-finds

Actual report is at https://www.phcc.org.nz/briefing/long-covid-aotearoa-nz-risk-assessment-and-preventive-action-urgently-needed

Sadly for everyone I'm betting this government won't do anything at all.

Although there are developing views that "long covid" is actually very similar to the ongoing long term impacts of other viral infections,

Its just that the number of COVID infections was so huge, that it became much more visible...

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/511881/long-covid-no-worse-or-more-likely-than-other-post-viral-syndromes-study

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#3211232 26-Mar-2024 15:53

Wastewater seems to be the winner as far as population monitoring goes.
I expect reported cases, would be just serious illness, groups of workers say in aged care and healthcare who need to report plus a small number of others.

The drop in wastewater around holidays could be just people leaving town for places without monitoring.

It would seem this monitoring has a future for a number of things.
Funding might get hit by the general trend to try to forget anything to do with pandemic.
The world had a little warning with original SARS then went to sleep.

No one was perfect, as perfect solutions did not exist.
What should be a source of pride that we did far better than most could, and right in the top of countries that did well on many levels.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/450874/covid-19-data-visualisations-nz-in-numbers

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#3211265 26-Mar-2024 16:37

ezbee:

Wastewater seems to be the winner as far as population monitoring goes.

Yeah, https://poops.nz is the goto for checking that. It's still at a high level nationwide. (Compare to pre-Nov/Oct 2023 when Pirola/BA.2.86/JN.1.x got into NZ)

wellygary

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#3211271 26-Mar-2024 16:52

ezbee:

Wastewater seems to be the winner as far as population monitoring goes.

Along with hospital cases,...

You've got a pretty stable population number (those admitted to hospital), along with a likely pretty standardised test...

mattwnz

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#3211351 26-Mar-2024 17:51

Is anyone else still been covid free? I know someone else who was covid free until last month when they caught it bad.

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#3211354 26-Mar-2024 17:58

This was asked on Reddit and a number of people did respond (although it's also possible they could have been asymptomatic). Unless people have largely been living like hermits, pretty much everyone will have been exposed by this point.

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#3211362 26-Mar-2024 18:33

mattwnz:

Is anyone else still been covid free? I know someone else who was covid free until last month when they caught it bad.

Myself and my sister are. Two elderly friends also haven't had it, no idea how one of them hasn't copped it as she's always out visiting different people daily!

Everyone else in my sister's small office has had it - one was feeling off one morning and went home then tested positive, she was sitting about 2 feet next to her. I've probably been exposed.

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