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#2545056 20-Aug-2020 11:11

@networkn Take it easy and hopefully you and the doctors find out what is wrong with your little fella.

High parking charges are the last thing that parents need when their child is at Starship.

My condition has slowly worsened too so was back to GP on Monday and came back to ED yesterday. I got admitted this time. They not 100% sure what is going on with me. My symptoms and diagnosis from my GP don't add up so they doing further investigations.

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#2545062 20-Aug-2020 11:19

Handsomedan:

I think it's criminal that visitors are forced to pay for parking - especially at Starship of all places!

I was shocked when we visited our friends' newborn baby who had open heart surgery a few years back at how much it cost us. I dare say it's a lot more now.

If you're visiting family it shouldn't cost you anything.

When my illness flares I have to go to the hospital for treatment and observation depending what is happening I can be there all day and sometimes several times a week. I used to drive myself before I gave up driving and parking cost and arm and a leg. My wife will take me now and have to park all day

and it costs a lot and if she cannot one of my sons or friends will take and again I will pay a fortune for parking. I wont go by taxis due to the health risks. Patients and visitors should not be a revenue stream.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2545064 20-Aug-2020 11:24

I am fortunate enough that I can afford it, but I think think it's outrageous. $7.50 for an hour, my wife paid $40 the first time he was admitted. I can't really understand having Wilsons run it, a company who's ethics and charging schemes leave a huge amount to be desired.

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#2545069 20-Aug-2020 11:28

I can't remember if this has been mentioned, but I think one of my team mentioned the Auckland Hospital carpark is owned by ACC.

I don't think anyone chooses to spend time in a hospital, and we shouldn't be punished for going there. Public transport is typically not an option if you are taking someone for an appointment.

Hospital parking charges feel outrageous, and IMHO should probably be on a cost-recovery basis (including capital cost). Maybe $1 per hour for the first 4 hours and then 50c/hour after that? You'd have to have a method of discouraging workers in the area using it though.

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#2545072 20-Aug-2020 11:31

Many places (at least overseas) validate the parking charges of clients or visitors with an appointment. I don't see why hospitals could not do the same thing. (Expensive) paid parking may be necessary due to high demand and limited space, but there is no good reason a system could not be worked out for patients and visitors of certain categories of patients.

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#2545077 20-Aug-2020 11:38

Rikkitic:

Many places (at least overseas) validate the parking charges of clients or visitors with an appointment. I don't see why hospitals could not do the same thing. (Expensive) paid parking may be necessary due to high demand and limited space, but there is no good reason a system could not be worked out for patients and visitors of certain categories of patients.

I rather naively thought that's what would happen for patients...

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#2545099 20-Aug-2020 12:18

I would rather a hospital spend (their insufficient) money on providing medical care than parking.

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#2546616 20-Aug-2020 21:18

I had a cycling accident a long while back, whilst I still lived in the UK. Over the handlebars downhill on a mountain bike. Buckled the front wheel, broke helmet and so on.

Woke up the next day with a haematoma the size of a grapefruit on my right thigh. Agony - could barely hobble. Decided I had better get checked at A&E so off I went. Arrived at A&E and found all the carparking spaces near the doors were empty but marked "Doctors Only"...! Ended up having to hobble quite a way AND pay for the parking per hour whilst I was a patient in A&E! 🤬

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#2546617 20-Aug-2020 21:20

blackjack17:

I would rather a hospital spend (their insufficient) money on providing medical care than parking.

Providing parking is a capital cost already paid for when the hospital was built. There is no significant cost to providing it thereafter apart from occasionally re-lining the parking spaces.

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#2546624 20-Aug-2020 21:23

Geektastic:

blackjack17:

I would rather a hospital spend (their insufficient) money on providing medical care than parking.

Providing parking is a capital cost already paid for when the hospital was built. There is no significant cost to providing it thereafter apart from occasionally re-lining the parking spaces.

Great, 100% margin

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#2547151 21-Aug-2020 17:01

So my little fella is home with us again. After a series of scary and intrusive tests they couldn't find a cause of his symptoms, but thankfully he has been symptom-free since he woke yesterday morning.

We have some exceptional medical and medical support people in our health care system, and some of those people really went above and beyond to help him feel as comfortable as it was possible to be all things considered. As a parent, I can't tell you grateful for that I am.

Some of the worst and scariest things have been ruled out, which has been a huge relief, even if they were pretty unlikely.

Right now I am just stupidly happy he is home with us and to boot, is his usual cheerful and happy self and with a very healthy appetite. It's done wonders for my state of mind.

I really hope we can have a few uneventful weeks or months!

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#2547152 21-Aug-2020 17:04

It's good to hear he's home. Hopefully this was just a passing episode and you can focus on arguing important matters like why the Crusaders shouldn't have anyone in the All Blacks 😉.

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#2547155 21-Aug-2020 17:08

Handle9: It's good to hear he's home. Hopefully this was just a passing episode and you can focus on arguing important matters like why the Crusaders shouldn't have anyone in the All Blacks 😉.

If you took the Crusaders out of the AB's then there would only be 4 players left to play Australia ;) That's probably still enough to keep the Bledisloe though :-)

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#2547161 21-Aug-2020 17:27

Geektastic:

blackjack17:

I would rather a hospital spend (their insufficient) money on providing medical care than parking.

Providing parking is a capital cost already paid for when the hospital was built. There is no significant cost to providing it thereafter apart from occasionally re-lining the parking spaces.

Unfortunately, to generate cashflow, many hospitals in the main centres have contracted the operation of their carparks to commercial operators. Hospital carparks are then just commercial carparks which happen to be situated near a hospital.

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#2547404 22-Aug-2020 07:50

RNZ: Suicide commentary unhelpful to Queenstown, mental health experts say

Speculation about the financial impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on the suicide rate is causing more harm than good, those in the mental health sector say.

The link between Covid-19 and higher suicide numbers first reared its head during the nationwide level 4 lockdown earlier this year.

Provisional figures from the Chief Coroner, released yesterday, show the opposite is in fact true with year-on-year suicide numbers down as well as a marked drop during the months of the lockdown.

However, the link has been drawn again since Auckland re-entered level 3 and the country moved to level 2.

ACT Party leader David Seymour raised it during a speech in Parliament earlier this week.

"The mental health of small-business owners driven to the brink of bankruptcy and beyond by lockdowns is immeasurable," he told the House.

"I was in Queenstown talking to people in that community a few weeks ago. They said they had had seven suicides in a fortnight - an outrage."

Those involved in the sector said those numbers were greatly exaggerated.

The hard numbers would not be available for some time yet, but the chief coroner's provisional figures showed a decline in suicides in the Southern District Health Board (DHB) region in 2020 along with the rest of the country.

According to the numbers there were 54 suicides in the Southern DHB area between July 2019 and June 2020 - down on 57 during the same period the year before and 65 in 2018.
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Those in Queenstown did not want to discuss the reported figures, but sources said they were grossly exaggerated.

Queenstown Lakes District councillor and the independent chair of the Southern DHB's mental health and addiction network leadership group, John MacDonald, said there were mental health services available for those who needed them.

"There are plenty of services available in Queenstown and yes there has been a lift in demand for those services in recent times, since we've come out of lockdown, but none of the services are overrun," he said.

"They aren't available today or tomorrow, but they are available and there are other services in the wider district which can come in to support them via telehealth."

His advice for those in distress or suffering from anxiety was to reach out.

"The first step for people should be to call the 1737 helpline, which is available 24 hours a day and has multiple languages available or go and see your GP," MacDonald said.
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