2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2443676 22-Mar-2020 13:15

The case in Carterton still not ruling out CT. We are in Upper Hutt, about 45 minutes away. A lot of people travel back and forth over the Rimutaka hill, and on the train.

It's a little close for comfort.

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#2443677 22-Mar-2020 13:15

Can we say Olympics? I don't know what Japan are doing but if they're aren't containing and isolating, then they're just delaying the epidemic through their population.

Their case number is 1000 I think now.

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#2443679 22-Mar-2020 13:19

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#2443680 22-Mar-2020 13:20

They often wear masks in public and it is a clean country so maybe that helps.

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#2443682 22-Mar-2020 13:23

MileHighKiwi:
The case in Carterton still not ruling out CT. We are in Upper Hutt, about 45 minutes away. A lot of people travel back and forth over the Rimutaka hill, and on the train.

It's a little close for comfort.

If it is CT then isn't it likely they got it from someone in Wellington especially considering their job which likely involves dealing with people and possibly lots of handshakes

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#2443683 22-Mar-2020 13:25

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#2443684 22-Mar-2020 13:25

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120475339/coronavirus-ministry-of-health-to-provide-update-on-new-cases-in-new-zealand

14 more cases, 11 travel related.

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#2443685 22-Mar-2020 13:26

MileHighKiwi:
The case in Carterton still not ruling out CT. We are in Upper Hutt, about 45 minutes away. A lot of people travel back and forth over the Rimutaka hill, and on the train.

It's a little close for comfort.

To be fair, it was a council worker - highly unlikely they were on the train, and we all know they are going to be well closed before the train gets in each night. You'd need someone to have made it to council during their opening hours (10am til 2pm, and closed for the lunch hour?), have spent long enough there to actually catch it (although with the speed of service, that could be possible), and then take it home, and finally give it to someone in their household who catches the train.

Plus, we all know the weird "train people" think that a particular seat is their own, so there's a good chance the contact tracing should be easy enough - you've got those weirdos is that carriage, these weirdos in this carriage, and those who aren't cool enough for a seat standing between carriages.

Unless of course, the conductor has it...

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#2443687 22-Mar-2020 13:27

gchiu:
Can we say Olympics? I don't know what Japan are doing but if they're aren't containing and isolating, then they're just delaying the epidemic through their population.

Their case number is 1000 I think now.

You mean flattening the curve si health services are not overwhelmed? Isn't that also NZs approach rather than going all out to stamp it out?

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#2443688 22-Mar-2020 13:30

Maybe if we tell the Govt we are Kiwifruit and we need to be treated like PSA they might up their response?

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#2443692 22-Mar-2020 13:35

kingdragonfly: NZ Herald: Coronavirus: North Island iwi warned against blocking major state highway

Describing SH35 as a major state highway as clickbait. It's the road following the Motu River, aka the Motu Track. A windy narrow little used back road that no one would notice if it was closed if it wasn't reported in the Herald.

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#2443696 22-Mar-2020 13:37

mattwnz: You mean flattening the curve si health services are not overwhelmed? Isn't that also NZs approach rather than going all out to stamp it out?

Again I'm not a numbers guy so this might be off by a factor or two

4.8M x 60% (herd immunity) = 2.88M infected

20% of 2.88M = 576,000 in ICU or HDU

Mortality of 2.5% that's 120,000 dead

and 57600 - 120,000 = 456,000 needing rehab.

Now, that's with a R0 of 2.5. We can drop that by isolating.

So flattening the curve is a disaster. We need to eradicate this disease.

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#2443698 22-Mar-2020 13:42

Okay, any health professionals here

https://www.change.org/p/medical-professionals-to-pm-ardern-4-measures-to-protect-nz-from-covid19?use_react=false

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#2443700 22-Mar-2020 13:45

- Italy had nearly 800 fatalities on this single day.

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#2443742 22-Mar-2020 14:03

gchiu:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120475339/coronavirus-ministry-of-health-to-provide-update-on-new-cases-in-new-zealand

14 more cases, 11 travel related.

All travel related. 1 of the 3 is a close contact of an existing case, the other 2 were at a conference that included foreign delegates, and where there was infection, so 2 Kiwis got infected.

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