2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2444418 23-Mar-2020 12:43

gchiu:

Case positivity rate in NZ on testing 2%, but Australia is 1%

Is this just more focused testing. Test 1000 people who are healthy are you get a low percent right?

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#2444419 23-Mar-2020 12:45

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gchiu:

36 more cases overnight :(

Now treating the two as CT

Update on alert level from the PM coming later.

I think we will go to level 3.

It says some non essential businesses will be closed. Very vague. Is the construction industry shut at this level?

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#2444420 23-Mar-2020 12:45

Am I the only one wondering why officialdom is still urging people overseas to come home as soon as possible?

That would appear to be inviting the wolf in through the door.

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#2444425 23-Mar-2020 12:47

tdgeek:

gchiu:

36 more cases overnight :(

Now treating the two as CT

No new cases of CT. Thats the big number to watch

Two possible CT's are now 2 x CT

All the rest we flew in and counted later as is the case each day, this has ramped up as flights continue in, and from higher risk countries each day

We have person to person transfer as a lot of the newer cases are people in contact with those who have traveled. I think what they are actually meaning with the term CT is "untraceable" which is quite different from person to person or "community transmission".

How many person to person transfers do we need to up the alert level whether they are traceable or not shouldn't be the only thing that makes the difference.

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#2444426 23-Mar-2020 12:48

gchiu:

Case positivity rate in NZ on testing 2%, but Australia is 1%

the case positivity rate depends on who you test.

we are testing asymptomatic close contacts by the droves.

if you test symptomatic cases who are not close contacts - who are not being tested ...

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#2444427 23-Mar-2020 12:48

Batman:

we are not testing for CT, of course we won't find it

Why are there 2? They were tested, and not because they interacted with travellers.

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#2444430 23-Mar-2020 12:51

tdgeek:

Batman:

we are not testing for CT, of course we won't find it

Why are there 2? They were tested, and not because they interacted with travellers.

you better be right. as i said we'll know in the next week. i hope to be wrong.

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#2444431 23-Mar-2020 12:52

iamaelephant:

How are you guys still making this basic mistake? We are not testing people who are not directly connected with confirmed cases, therefore we cannot possibly find positive cases who are not directly connected with confirmed cases. This propaganda needs to stop. If we don't start being realistic this thing will eat us alive.

There are 3 cases of CT, 1 new. and one is not CT, so still two. So how can we have three cases that were not travel related but got tested?

The cases we see here each day are from aircarft as Dr Bloomfield kleeps saying

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#2444433 23-Mar-2020 12:54

The fantasy that all people -- many of whom were likely just gallivanting around pointlessly during such extraordinary times (not all would have been travelling just for giggles I fully concede) -- would abide by health advisories voluntarily is not working out very well.

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#2444435 23-Mar-2020 13:00

Maybe someone should just ask MoH---- How many positive cases and or how fast do they have to come in for level 3 to be triggered?

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#2444437 23-Mar-2020 13:04

Batman:

you better be right. as i said we'll know in the next week. i hope to be wrong.

Its not about being right, its a discussion. IMO the travellers counts are the BIG news but to me they aren't. CT is. Yes we arent counting CT, but we are as we have counted 3 so far. I recall the other day he intimated we are counting more than travellers or close contacts of travellers, cant remember what he said

Now we have official CT we will be contact tracing and testing them. I would rather we stopped testing travellers that are crook. We know you probably have it, rest, 14 days, bye. If we need to check a CT that could be MANY contacts (as they had no need to isolate) thats the main priority. Im not intersrted in a traveller that brought it here, isolated, and is now ok. They are a red herring, apart from the odd one that had a latte at a cafe, etc

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#2444439 23-Mar-2020 13:05

OK. The time for pragmatism is now. It is probably spreading. It is probably spreading quicker than we can test for. Lockdown to some extent, 3 or 4, is inevitable.

It is unlikely the Govt will leave mortgage holders to languish when other countries are following through with direct support. It's also inevitable some/many people will loose their jobs. We are past 1987 in terms of probable economic impact.

Whatever happens now, we cannot change. It will happen, so we have to make sure it happens in a way that gives us the best chance of climbing out of things on the other side.

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#2444440 23-Mar-2020 13:06

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120487231/coronavirus-migrant-worker-cant-get-home-after-border-closed-to-all-but-citizens-and-residents

Cry me some more tears, you three absolute idiots.

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#2444441 23-Mar-2020 13:09

From the Brisbane Times with update at 7.02 am 23 March:

'In the latest update, Queensland had 319 confirmed cases of coronavirus.'

(Remember that on 14 March they either 35 or 38 cases.)

That newspaper is normally behind a paywall but not at the moment because of the crisis.

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#2444443 23-Mar-2020 13:09

Geektastic:

Am I the only one wondering why officialdom is still urging people overseas to come home as soon as possible?

That would appear to be inviting the wolf in through the door.

Thats what Ive been saying. Buit they are Kiwis they have a right to be here, but we seem to manage that risk ok.

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