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#2835932 20-Dec-2021 12:21

wellygary:

B) He's from Auckland and heavily into lightrail urban transformation - He'd be all over LGWM if it wasn't such a dog..

Could have fooled me. All of the 'talk' about Light Rail delivered more talk and zero light rail.

Also, the proposed housing changes water down the urban transformation aspect of LR as the original UPS was supposed to focus development on rapid transit corridors. Now it can be anywhere.

So if there is a working theory that Woods favours LR and the benefits it can bring in any meaningful way, it needs to work a lot harder to convince this Aucklander.

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#2835936 20-Dec-2021 12:25

MikeB4:

Maybe its the 70s protester in me but I feel that maybe the folks on the Kapiti Coast and the greater region should make the decision on behalf of the gateway partnership and the GWRC and dismantle the barriers, remove the cones, take down the signs and say there you go its bloody open and start driving on it.

Frankly with what the folks in Kapiti have to endure daily with the highway a carpark daily I am surprised people haven't already done this. I fear the bungling and incompetence is going to cost lives on the roads out of Te Whanganui a Tara this summer. Maybe it's time for the Hon Michael Woods to grow a pair and act.

I suspect the problem with that, is that if there is a crash\nose-to-tail incident on the road, are you covered under your insurance if the road isn't legally open?

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#2835937 20-Dec-2021 12:29

wellygary:

He doesn't care,

because A) Labour hated the PPP, and he wants to be no where near it, and

B) He's from Auckland and heavily into lightrail urban transformation - He'd be all over LGWM if it wasn't such a dog..

From what I hear it was only the insistence of Grant Robertson that saved the Otaki-North of Levin Expressway at the last "re prioritisation"

Yeah you are right and he will simply blame the previous government.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2835957 20-Dec-2021 13:35

because A) Labour hated the PPP, and he wants to be no where near it, and

Fair enough too. It's the same capitalist bollocks that gave us a billion dollar UFB stapled to fences.

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#2848046 12-Jan-2022 11:57

Apparently one of the major factors contributing to the delays now is ecological consents, or lack thereof. Rather than engaging with the consenting authorities throughout it would seem the builders ploughed ahead with a " we know what we're doing" attitude and got them in at the end to simply get the boxes ticked...or not as it turns out. There's stories that the way the culverts have been constructed is not to spec so the fish can't swim up them and at one stage the wrong type of trees were ordered.

Disclaimer: the guy who told me this is a friend of a neighbour of the guy who delivers the coffee and tea supplies to the TG building crews....or something.

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#2848069 12-Jan-2022 12:55

Some consents cannot be processed until the area of project in question is complete. However the problems seem to be wider than that. There was so much rework due to shonky quality (or lack thereof) on that project. I'm still surprised Waka Kotahi have not activated the liquidated damages clauses. The delays have well gone past the cumulative unproductive days due to COVID lockdowns and must surely be stretching the "supply chain constraint" argument pretty thin

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#2848262 12-Jan-2022 14:49

Two stories I've heard:

1: They need to build a weigh-station as the one at Plimmerton is getting bypassed as a result

2: The contractors are fighting with each other on who are going to pay the fines because of the project being delayed

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#2849259 12-Jan-2022 15:15

DjShadow:

Two stories I've heard:

1: They need to build a weigh-station as the one at Plimmerton is getting bypassed as a result

Correct that they propose a new weigh station, near Mackay's crossing. But I doubt it is a reason for delaying the road opening.

Most recently NZTA consulted on locating the weigh station where a temporary asphalt plant is located, so it follows that the weigh station would never be operational for road opening, once you allow for the time to dismantle the asphalt plant and build the weigh station.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/commercial-driving/trucks-and-tow-trucks/weigh-right-programme/

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#2849260 12-Jan-2022 15:19

nickb800:
DjShadow:

Two stories I've heard:

1: They need to build a weigh-station as the one at Plimmerton is getting bypassed as a result

Correct that they propose a new weigh station, near Mackay's crossing. But I doubt it is a reason for delaying the road opening.

Most recently NZTA consulted on locating the weigh station where a temporary asphalt plant is located, so it follows that the weigh station would never be operational for road opening, once you allow for the time to dismantle the asphalt plant and build the weigh station.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/commercial-driving/trucks-and-tow-trucks/weigh-right-programme/

Yeah, as above, this is a NZTA project, not the T Gully consortium.... its not holding up the road being consented and opened....

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#2849382 12-Jan-2022 16:30

I've just cheekily walked on TG near battle hill park which abuts TG.

The park has a road which passes under the highway to reach the more distant / wilder parts of the park.

Where this road meets TG is a culvert and I'd have to say the pipe work looks very shoddy even to the amateur eye. A large pipe (60cm or so) has been siliconed into the circular entrance of the culvert but the silicon (or other gunge as appropriate) has come away leaving finger width gaps. When the ditch floods, water will go into the pipe as well as beside the pipe.

I'm sure it's a minor defect not reflective of the rest of the project (fingers crossed).

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#2849626 13-Jan-2022 06:45

elpenguino:

I've just cheekily walked on TG near battle hill park which abuts TG.

The park has a road which passes under the highway to reach the more distant / wilder parts of the park.

Where this road meets TG is a culvert and I'd have to say the pipe work looks very shoddy even to the amateur eye. A large pipe (60cm or so) has been siliconed into the circular entrance of the culvert but the silicon (or other gunge as appropriate) has come away leaving finger width gaps. When the ditch floods, water will go into the pipe as well as beside the pipe.

I'm sure it's a minor defect not reflective of the rest of the project (fingers crossed).

I went through the Battle Hill underpass shortly after it opened to the public - there were a lot of resin injection nipples all over the underpass walls and ceiling - indicative of a lot of cracks in the newly poured underpass. I'm sure it's structurally sound but it does make you wonder about the management and quality of construction.

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#2854085 20-Jan-2022 13:31

Cause of delays revealed:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/127547914/transmission-gully-stormwater-system-behind-ongoing-delays-in-motorway-opening

Sounds like they've got issues with stuff not being built correctly, as hypthesised earlier.

An announcment regarding a date is expected Mid Feb. That's not an opening target date, thats a target date for the announcment of the announcement of the opening!

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#2857250 27-Jan-2022 17:05

There are some recent photos of Transmission Gully here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/transmission-gully-motorway/

Also there is a twitter account "TransGully" which posts a tweet once a day indicating if its open yet

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#2857476 28-Jan-2022 08:05

jamesrt:

Cause of delays revealed:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/127547914/transmission-gully-stormwater-system-behind-ongoing-delays-in-motorway-opening

Sounds like they've got issues with stuff not being built correctly, as hypthesised earlier.

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Stuff:

A fully functioning system capable of treating road run-off water to the required standard must be operational before the 27-kilometre motorway can open to the public.

This leaves me with two (genuine) questions:

Does the TG road need to be closed for this work to be completed?
Is the ecological impact of some potential not-properly-treated run-off water worse than the CO2 emissions from the current traffic jams on SH59 (that's the existing road, previously SH1)?

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#2857563 28-Jan-2022 09:27

floydbloke:

This leaves me with two (genuine) questions:

Does the TG road need to be closed for this work to be completed?
Is the ecological impact of some potential not-properly-treated run-off water worse than the CO2 emissions from the current traffic jams on SH59 (that's the existing road, previously SH1)?

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