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#2110135 17-Oct-2018 23:28

I have 30kWh LEAF Tekna from the UK. It's a 2016 model, first registered on March 31st, 2016 in the UK. It was registered in NZ in late October 2016.

It had about 4300km when it arrived from the UK.

It now has 79,187km. It's been from Cape Reinga to Bluff and back as well as many other trips all over the place.

I had the firmware update applied in June and my battery returned to an SoH over 90%. It was 83.43% the day before the update.

A few days ago after a 511km drive around the East Cape my SoH was 93.68%. But it usually bounces around between 90.5% and 92%.

Anyway......I charged the LEAF up last night as I was going to drive Auckland to Opotiki this morning.....and the recent improvement in my battery capacity saw my GOM return to 200km for the first time this year (as far as I can recall).

Nice to see on a LEAF that's very close to 3 years old and almost at 80,000km.

The funny part was......as a drive away and did 50kph for about 15km....the GOM actually went up....and I had 202km showing....and had already driven 5km. :-)

So when people say "What about the battery?"

What about it..... :-)

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#2111773 21-Oct-2018 10:00

jonathan18:
SaltyNZ:

Lastly remember the later models have a heat pump for the heater which has less impact on range than the resistive heater in the older ones.

Actually, I think with the 'gen 2' (and, yes, I know it's really 1.2), the cheapest "S" model still had a standard heater - a good reason to go for either the "X" or 'G".

@MikeB4: This site has useful information on the various models available - https://samholford.github.io/leafguide/

The "X' hit the spot for us - but for us it was more critical that it had a full suite of airbags as it ferries the kids in it every day (I got told 95% have only two), so we were willing to pay more for that than worry too much about other features. [Edit - to be clear, >2 airbags isn't model-dependent, but rather based on the initial owner's purchase decision; I assume it was an option for all three Japanese trims. I also assume the UK models come with the full airbag suite.] My sister's since bought a G for less money, a few more kms, but a pretty much perfect battery...

Also, check out the Leaf and EV groups on Facebook - there are some really helpful members on them.

I agree, when shopping around I don’t even stop to look if it doesn’t have the full compliment of airbags. Surprised the extra airbags are optional for a car of this age! Safety first people!

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#2111779 21-Oct-2018 10:10

Linuxluver:
I have 30kWh LEAF Tekna from the UK. It's a 2016 model, first registered on March 31st, 2016 in the UK. It was registered in NZ in late October 2016.

It had about 4300km when it arrived from the UK.

It now has 79,187km.

Wow. I think the most impressive stat is that you have driven 75000km in two years! I hope the leaf seats are comfy.
Kind of ironic that the range and charge symbol is a stylised petrol pump tho'. I would have thought a battery would have been more appropriate.

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#2111815 21-Oct-2018 12:09

Dingbatt:
Wow. I think the most impressive stat is that you have driven 75000km in two years! I hope the leaf seats are comfy.
Kind of ironic that the range and charge symbol is a stylised petrol pump tho'. I would have thought a battery would have been more appropriate.

I don't think it's that uncommon. I'm on track to be over 40,000km in one year.

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#2111846 21-Oct-2018 13:25

Dingbatt:
Linuxluver:
I have 30kWh LEAF Tekna from the UK. It's a 2016 model, first registered on March 31st, 2016 in the UK. It was registered in NZ in late October 2016.

It had about 4300km when it arrived from the UK.

It now has 79,187km.

Wow. I think the most impressive stat is that you have driven 75000km in two years! I hope the leaf seats are comfy.
Kind of ironic that the range and charge symbol is a stylised petrol pump tho'. I would have thought a battery would have been more appropriate.

Looks like a rapid charger icon to me...

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#2111856 21-Oct-2018 14:00

SaltyNZ:

Dingbatt:
Wow. I think the most impressive stat is that you have driven 75000km in two years! I hope the leaf seats are comfy.
Kind of ironic that the range and charge symbol is a stylised petrol pump tho'. I would have thought a battery would have been more appropriate.

I don't think it's that uncommon. I'm on track to be over 40,000km in one year.

I think you are right, although it is on the higher end of the spectrum.
The current ''economic'' business case for an electric car is for those driving at least 15k/year I believe. The more the better, as long as you have the time and places to quick charge. Relative high buy price and low cost to drive and maintain are the key underlying factors. With the recent increased fuel prices it only gets better.

Of course there are also other reasons to drive electric (environment, less maintenance, powerful) but they only tend to attract a minority of car buyers.

BTW I believe the seats in my 2016 Tekna are actually too comfy for the range :-) After 1.5h to 2h driving you have to get out and charge anyway.

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#2111873 21-Oct-2018 14:43

afe66:
Looks like a rapid charger icon to me...

Does it warn you when the charge is getting low (like a low fuel light does on an ICE or hybrid) and you need to find one of the pictured rapid chargers? I would guess any responsible EV driver would keep a pretty close eye on the range anyway.

And yes, 30000-40000km a year would make the payback on higher initial cost pretty quick.

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#2111921 21-Oct-2018 17:24

Dingbatt:
afe66:
Looks like a rapid charger icon to me...

Does it warn you when the charge is getting low (like a low fuel light does on an ICE or hybrid) and you need to find one of the pictured rapid chargers? I would guess any responsible EV driver would keep a pretty close eye on the range anyway.

And yes, 30000-40000km a year would make the payback on higher initial cost pretty quick.

You need less than 15,000 km a year in Wellington to save money. Going up and down hills in our Honda Accord was killing the fuel economy of that car, despite it being ok on the highway. It just wasn't designed for hills. With the Leaf I don't really care what the energy economy is, its dirt cheap to charge and it always has enough battery power for a day's driving, no matter how many events, pickups, playdates and errands happen on a given day. The fact that its quiet racing up hills is a big bonus.

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#2112039 21-Oct-2018 19:53

Dingbatt:
afe66:
Looks like a rapid charger icon to me...

Does it warn you when the charge is getting low (like a low fuel light does on an ICE or hybrid) and you need to find one of the pictured rapid chargers? I would guess any responsible EV driver would keep a pretty close eye on the range anyway.

And yes, 30000-40000km a year would make the payback on higher initial cost pretty quick.

It will beeped and display an amber warning light when you hit 20% battery capacity which in my leaf means I've got 25km range left.

It's not really an issue when you get down to it as plugging in at home gives me 120km range each morning.

Ive done 14k but only needed to use rapid charger once when driving round town.

Driven Dunedin to chch return and Dunedin to wanaka return once and used the rapid chargers then.

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#2112043 21-Oct-2018 20:04

Dingbatt: Does it warn you when the charge is getting low (like a low fuel light does on an ICE or hybrid) and you need to find one of the pictured rapid chargers? I would guess any responsible EV driver would keep a pretty close eye on the range anyway.

It has a much more in-your-face warning than a typical low fuel light, which comes on when battery is down to 15% (I think) [Edit - 20%, going by the post above!] - this video demos it coming on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5raO6MRs8

There's also a substantial change in performance when the 'turtle mode' switches on, which happens close to the battery being depleted, and which limits maximum speed.

Personally, I've never experienced turtle mode, and we rarely hit the 'battery low' warning, as our usage is at the other end of the posts above - certainly under 10,000km a year. Some may say that doesn't make it financially worth it, but given it costs virtually nothing to run (most charging in the hour of free power with EK) and that my wife just loves it, it's been worth it for us - only thing is that we wished we'd purchased it way earlier!

(Personally, I'd rather not do huge miles in our Leaf - perhaps the Japanese ones are more wallowy than the UK ones, but I prefer to use it around town than drive on the open road.)

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#2113776 25-Oct-2018 12:37

I've just picked up a Gen4 Leaf for 6 months courtesy of Mercury Drive. Looks super sweet! It's an ex-UK model.

I have an Android phone and want to use Leaf management apps to keep track of charging etc. These seem to need a NissanConnect account. NZ NissanConnect doesn't offer the Leaf as a supported model. Overseas NissanConnect seems to cost money?

What do other ex-UK Leaf owners use for car management apps?

In-car, Android Auto serves me well.

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#2113832 25-Oct-2018 13:11

kelly42: I've just picked up a Gen4 Leaf for 6 months courtesy of Mercury Drive. Looks super sweet! It's an ex-UK model.

I saw they had the Zoe and Gen4 Leaf available, shame they do not mention until you try to check out that its Auckland only .. I got excited for a minute at a chance to try out a Leaf without the commitment of an actual lease/purchase

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#2113835 25-Oct-2018 13:13

Watching this with interest. I'd imagine the first hurdle you will strike is that the cell modem won't be connecting to N.Z. 3G/4G services. Is there a status menu that shows network connection state?

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#2113852 25-Oct-2018 14:15

tripper1000:

Watching this with interest. I'd imagine the first hurdle you will strike is that the cell modem won't be connecting to N.Z. 3G/4G services. Is there a status menu that shows network connection state?

I'll let you know once I've had more than 5 minutes to sit in it - haven't even driven it yet! From the looks of it, the map and modem etc think the car is in England.

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#2113866 25-Oct-2018 14:31

kelly42: I've just picked up a Gen4 Leaf for 6 months courtesy of Mercury Drive. Looks super sweet! It's an ex-UK model.

I have an Android phone and want to use Leaf management apps to keep track of charging etc. These seem to need a NissanConnect account. NZ NissanConnect doesn't offer the Leaf as a supported model. Overseas NissanConnect seems to cost money?

What do other ex-UK Leaf owners use for car management apps?

In-car, Android Auto serves me well.

What is a Gen4? Is that 2018? I have a 2016 which I call a Gen2, so I'm confused.

Does it support Apple/Google maps with CarPlay or Android Auto, or does it use built in maps?

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